UGH (0.00 / 0)

Epic failure.

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by: kingsmill @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 14:29:44 PM UTC

$$$$$$$$$$4 (0.00 / 0)

So how much money did the party wast.....errr spend on the Baker campaign?

Grease Fire

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by: PitBullGOP @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 14:39:31 PM UTC

All of the money that the Baker Campaign (3.50 / 2)

raised.

Full Disclosure


http://www.redmassgroup.com/pr...

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by: Rob "EaBo Clipper" Eno @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 14:43:32 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

We know the story EaBo (5.00 / 1)

Baker said get those checkbooks out and write a check for the MA GOP, and that's what we did.  He didn't say write a check for Charlie Baker, which is where all the money went.  

Jenn cut the check.


Molon Labe

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by: Republican Ram Rod Radio @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 14:49:46 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

So every single donor (5.00 / 1)

That gave like 10-15K to the MassGOP knew that essentially every single penny was going to Baker?

False.

I heard many phone calls from a candidate calling these same donors and they said "I can't really give you $500 because I maxed out to the party. They will give you money"

Hundreds of thousands of dollars (or more) in donations people assumed were going to help out all candidates, not just Baker.

Grease Fire

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by: PitBullGOP @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 15:02:04 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

And... (5.00 / 1)

Pretty much all of the money the Baker campaign didn't raise.  Every other candidate was hung out to dry.

"I supported President Obama in 2008." - Gabriel Gomez

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by: Mike "DD4RP" Rossettie @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 15:29:18 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Mike, you are right and I agree, but... (4.50 / 2)

We must learn from our mistakes, beyond just money.

While the Mass GOP were organizing minor league baseball game fundraisers....
  The MASS DEMS were organizing their message and GOTV effort, and they started 2 weeks after Brown won.

AND

While the MASSGOP Chairman was on a bus with Baker and Brown et al
       The Mass Dem's Chairman was doing every media outlet possible raising the moral of their base.

Media help for Connaughton would have made a big difference.
The Clarke win over Spadafora is the micro, of the macro.

To quote a blogger on here.... Windage and Elevation.  

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by: Vincent Errichetti @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 15:36:01 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

This will be nearly impossible to do, with the ongoing and worsening... (0.00 / 0)

...political bias that exists, with the entire mainstream media, against the GOP and against all other non-leftist candidates for all political offices. The ongoing and worsening political biases, from within the mainstream media and from within the entertainment world, are, successfully, hurting the chances for victory on the non-leftist side, throughout Massachusetts. Political correctness is, also, getting much worse, everyday, and this includes: the ongoing "dumbing down" of the general public on a variety of issues, the ongoing political indoctrination of students in government controlled schools of all levels, the ongoing judicial activism of leftist judges throughout Massachusetts and throughout other states,...The left continues to control a lot of things, throughout the entire world, and the majority of what the left controls in the world are jobs in NON-ELECTED POSITIONS!

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by: johnthebaptistmoore @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 17:52:55 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Media help for Connoughton? (5.00 / 2)

She had the endorsement of every endorsing newspaper in the state. She had plenty of chance for fair TV debates.She's been a regular on talk radio for years.
Our problem is the people who don't listen to talk radio, don't read newspapers, don't watch TV debates, or even watch or listen to the ads. Our problem is these people still decide to vote! or get dragged to the polls by union members who don't have to work all day. We need a new organization modeled after the League of Women Voters, which we'll call "The League of Don't vote if you're clueless Voters."

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by: Barbara Anderson @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 18:22:04 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

dragged to the polls by union members who don't have to work all day. (0.00 / 0)

Really over the top Barbara, even for you. Union members are workers organized into a union to protect their interests in the workplace and in the policy arena. They take a day off, lose a days pay or are unemployed or retired.  

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by: StartedoutRepublican @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 19:12:29 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Barbara's comment is spot on. (0.00 / 0)

If large, private companies operated the way unions do on election day by giving their right wing employees the day off to canvas and bring voters to the polls, the Dems would be screaming bloody murder about it!

 

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by: Bobbie B @ Sat Nov 06, 2010 at 18:55:00 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

@ Barbara Anderson (5.00 / 1)

Sorry I should clarify.

One Party media buy, help with a media buy, etc.

Youa re right, we need to win the people who are not tuned into the main stream media.  

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by: Vincent Errichetti @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 20:04:47 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

GOTV (0.00 / 0)

Pretty much the same cities and towns that voted for Brown voted for Baker. Huge differnce was the cities and Dem strongholds where they had huge GOTV campaigns. This has always been a weakness with Republicans. Many are happy to write a check but few want to interact with voters. Dems in my area look at GOTV actions as a social time, fun with friends and family!

Don't forget the Dems use of Union thugs esp SEIU and MTA!!!Republicans have no counter to those organizations.

Mark McGwire "I'm not here to talk about the past"

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by: djquinby @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 19:45:49 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

how can somebody be so right and so wrong in the same comment? (0.00 / 0)

1.Dems view GOTV actions as a social time, fun with friends and family!

That's exactly what my young nieces said. Both single in their middle 20's worked with neighbors and made new friends at statewide or regional meetings. Including some like minded young men.

Don't forget the Dems use of Union thugs esp SEIU and MTA!!!

Hospital workers and school teachers thugs? Really. One of my nieces is a school teacher and she estimates that she volunteered almost 25 hours, mostly on weekends.

Republicans have no counter to those organizations.

And we will not ever have union support if our party continues obstruct their ability to organize themselves into a union to bargain with employers and support politicians that support policies that help working families. (I confess tha  our family business did not fight unionization of employees and worked hand in hand with them to win government contracts.)

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by: StartedoutRepublican @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 21:29:12 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

I apologize to your neice. (0.00 / 0)

Let me clarify, It seems the democrats are much more social than republican when it ccmes to GOTV. When I think of union thugs I mean the leadership more so than the rank in file. If Bob Haynes had a ballot with 2 republicans on it he would pull a blank.

Republicans are more free thinkers that is you pay me what I am worth based upon my ability to do a job, not what is negotiated for a group. When I was an IBEW member our local spent more time defending members who should of been fired. I resented being paid the same as people who would rather find ways to goof off all day.

I have voted for Democrats over the years when I thought they were right, but I see many union members that see Republicans as the enemy. If Republican embrace unions then we might as well all become democrats. Individual reponsibility and unions don't mix in my opinion.

Mark McGwire "I'm not here to talk about the past"

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by: djquinby @ Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 14:29:30 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

When Kerry Healey ran for Governor (5.00 / 1)

We didn't gain a single seat.

We made huge gains this time.

The Novak/Manzoli crowd wouldn't like Jen if she gain majorities everywhere.

The opposition wouldn't have gotten us anywhere.

"Don't let me get away with it. Check me out. Don't be the sucker generation." -Ronald Reagan

www.inBrockton.com

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by: BrocktonDave @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 14:50:11 PM UTC

Hey Dave. (0.00 / 0)

Sadly, neither side of those two factors can really pat themselves on the back. They were all focused at the top....

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by: Vincent Errichetti @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 15:22:53 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

One side is pure evil... (3.00 / 1)

...the other isn't (or doesn't seem to be, yet).

I agree with your statement though.

But my State Committee woman worked and will continue to work to shore up local campaigns and get local candidates.

"Don't let me get away with it. Check me out. Don't be the sucker generation." -Ronald Reagan

www.inBrockton.com

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by: BrocktonDave @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 15:36:31 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Is there a place in the Mass GOP for me? (5.00 / 2)

I am fed up with the complaining in Massachusetts and am considering a run for state rep in my area in 2012.  The current rep has been sitting unchallenged for many years and is a Democrat.  I am registered as a Democrat but have been registered unenrolled when I remember to change my affiliation.  Is there a place for someone like me in the Mass GOP?  Here's my position on some issues:  
Generally pro-choice, I oppose partial-birth abortion
Anti-death penalty under any circumstances
Pro physician assisted suicide under some circumstances
Generally Pro Second Amendment -Strongly oppose Obamacare, although I favor a state sponsored universal health insurance plan
Believe in equal legal rights for gay couples, believe the debate over "marriage" or "civil-unions" elevates form over substance
Support any government support earmarked for Veterans
Oppose reinstating the Bush tax cuts on capital gains, don't know enough about the rest of his cuts to comment
Support lowering sales tax to 5%, 3% was too low
Support Proposition 2 1/2
Oppose MCAS and believe Ted Kennedy's No Child Left Behind Act is ruining public schools and is another example of elevating form over substance
Believe president Clinton's Adoption and Safe Families Act destroys families and costs more money than it saves, money which should be spent reuniting families by teaching bad parents how to be good parents  

I am a thirty-something home owning, married, mother of young children, with an advanced degree who is gainfully employed.  Is the Mass GOP the place for me?

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by: lawyerbc93 @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 14:53:40 PM UTC

Hard to say .... what do you guys think? (0.00 / 0)

She seems reasonable to me

Generally pro-choice, I oppose partial-birth abortion
Support lowering sales tax to 5%, 3% was too low

But she could totally get sideswiped by the Tea Party for not being conservative enough.  

Lawyerbc93 - my advice would be to

1.) talk to PeterPorcupine. Porcupine is a blogger on this site and literally knows everything.

2.) Don't give out your name on this site no matter what.  Nothing good will come of it.  And if you don't believe me talk to SouthShoreRepublican and ask him if he thinks it's wise move.  

Molon Labe

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by: Republican Ram Rod Radio @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 15:22:50 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Awesome advice (5.00 / 1)

Go to the phone book and look up Peter Porcupine. I think he/she lives in Mass if that helps. Or you could call RRRR. Just go to the same phone book and...never mind!!

"Never, never, never give up" - Winston Churchill

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by: David Whelan @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 15:26:36 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

lol - you know what I mean (5.00 / 1)

Molon Labe

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by: Republican Ram Rod Radio @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 17:16:39 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

David - my email is on my ID. Same as you. (5.00 / 1)

Yr. Obedient Servant, Peter Porcupine, Republican

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by: Peter Porcupine @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 18:16:08 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

cool (5.00 / 1)

I just like giving R4 crap. Not much else pleases me these days.  

"Never, never, never give up" - Winston Churchill

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by: David Whelan @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 18:23:17 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Yeah Porcupine - he's just kidding around. We always kid around like that .... Whelan's a good guy. (0.00 / 0)

Molon Labe

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by: Republican Ram Rod Radio @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 18:48:38 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Maybe... Maybe not... (0.00 / 0)

But she could totally get sideswiped by the Tea Party for not being conservative enough.  

I'm not sure I agree with this.  I talked to folks at both the North Shore Tea Party and the Independence Tea Party, we agreed on many levels but not all.  North Shore is more fiscal issues based I think, Independence is turning to social issues.

Both were equally supportive despite our differences in beliefs.

Don't assume, the Tea Party folks are not all cut from the same mold.

Richard A. Jolitz

Once, and future, candidate


 

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by: NorthShoreRich @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 15:48:27 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Pro Choice eh...? (0.00 / 0)

I say go back to your liberal tent city

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by: tonid @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 16:57:59 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

You're what I am afriad of (5.00 / 1)

I feel I am pretty conservative:  I want the government out of my body, my bedroom and my bank account.  I also am pro-choice because I don't believe in cradle to grave welfare.  I do believe that as a civilized society the government need to give a hand to people it forces a life upon.  For example, we the taxpayers support convicted criminals, some even to death.  I think if the government can force someone to give birth, someone who was unable or unwilling to take the numerous easy steps to prevent the pregnancy in the first place, it seems a little hypocritical for the government then to deny that person's child (who didn't choose to be born into a life of poverty, neglect, drug use, physical and sexual abuse) a full ride until age 18. It appears that most, if not all, of the anti-choicers I know have done nothing to help even a single pregnant female make a better life for herself and her child until the child is 18.  

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by: lawyerbc93 @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 17:25:27 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Ignore the jerk (0.00 / 0)

I worked pretty hard for a Senate candidate and have some advice for you. Email me and talk to lots of people.

davidwhelanjr@gmail.com

"Never, never, never give up" - Winston Churchill

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by: David Whelan @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 17:28:25 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

email me also. tomasek2010@gmail.com. I just ran and can add some insight (0.00 / 0)

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by: tomasek1000 @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 17:57:52 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

@lawyerbo93 (0.00 / 0)

The answer to your question is yes.

Where you live does matter, but do not think you have to only work for, or support candidates in your home town to be effective.

As for running for state rep. redistricting has started, and without knowing dets, you could have a different state rep by this time next year.

The fact is, Republicans win when we get your vote. We do not always agree, but what we make our priorities does matter.  

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by: Vincent Errichetti @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 15:44:25 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

But just what IS the Republican platform? (0.00 / 0)

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by: lawyerbc93 @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 17:28:27 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Sorry, wrong poster (5.00 / 1)

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by: lawyerbc93 @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 17:30:44 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

That's your call....... (5.00 / 1)

If you feel a majority of the Republican Platform is what you believe in then sure, there is a place for you.

It'll be the kids table but a place none the less.

The long and short is that only you can decide what party, or no party for that matter, you want to be a part of.   And once there, you will find people who will welcome you on the local level, and help you when and if you run.

Don't ask if there is room, crowd in.


Richard A. Jolitz

Once, and future, candidate


 

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by: NorthShoreRich @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 15:46:15 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

But what IS the republican Platform???? (0.00 / 0)

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by: lawyerbc93 @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 17:31:09 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

You don't have an email in your identity - create a yahoo-type account, and I'll email you one. (0.00 / 0)

Yr. Obedient Servant, Peter Porcupine, Republican

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by: Peter Porcupine @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 18:14:09 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

done (0.00 / 0)

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by: lawyerbc93 @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 18:55:08 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Lawyer - platform sent. (0.00 / 0)

Your identity comes up as 'myfomail @ gmail.com'

Correct?

Yr. Obedient Servant, Peter Porcupine, Republican

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by: Peter Porcupine @ Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 21:28:36 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Always Room (0.00 / 0)

There is always room in the big tent. Whether others in the tent would choose you as their standard bearer isn't our place to say, is it? Only one way to find out.

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by: nomad943 @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 16:04:58 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

You're welcome to hang out with me! (0.00 / 0)

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by: Barbara Anderson @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 17:09:22 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Take her up on it.!!!! (0.00 / 0)

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by: StartedoutRepublican @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 17:46:32 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

I'm pretty cool to hang out with too. (0.00 / 0)

Molon Labe

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by: Republican Ram Rod Radio @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 17:53:30 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

I'm new here, if this is the CFLT Barbara Anderson, I sense I'd be too liberal for her liking. (0.00 / 0)

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by: lawyerbc93 @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 17:56:57 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Barbara is pretty cool (0.00 / 0)

Actually pretty funny as well.  

"Never, never, never give up" - Winston Churchill

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by: David Whelan @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 18:02:28 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

I agreed with your original statements except (0.00 / 0)

for the last one because I didn't understand it. I'm a libertarian (one that lives in the real political world and tries to win now and then). But CLT focuses on taxes because taxation is control of the agenda.

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by: Barbara Anderson @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 18:29:21 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

I'm also for MCAS (5.00 / 1)

but just because we can't get education vouchers so there's no other way to judge how well a school is doing.

You also might want to think twice about hanging out with me and RamRodRepublicanRadio at the same time!

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by: Barbara Anderson @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 18:32:06 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

I won't get into my view on Adoption and Safe Families Act, most people are unfamiliar with it (0.00 / 0)

I don't care how well a school is doing because, in my view, you get out of it what you put into it.  I think if every school had the resources (financial and familial) the the top performing schools do, they'd all perform a lot better and you wouldn't need a test to see the results.

Not sure if you're joking on the RamRod comment?

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by: lawyerbc93 @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 18:52:58 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

"Not sure if you're joking on the RamRod comment?" (0.00 / 0)

No she's not joking ... It's probably a bad idea to hang out with me .... or listen to me talk .... or be seen with me in public .... etc etc etc

Molon Labe

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by: Republican Ram Rod Radio @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 18:57:40 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Welcome (0.00 / 0)

Won't always agree with you, but it is definitely more fun that way.

Here's one area where I don't entirely agree with you - school funding = results.

You state:

I think if every school had the resources (financial and familial) the the top performing schools do, they'd all perform a lot better and you wouldn't need a test to see the results.

I will start with I don't have a good idea on how to measure familial resources and would like to know if there it one as this is one of the keys to educational success, in my opinion.

Then we can look at funding.  If you take a look at the top performing schools (use MCAS as a proxy for now) and you will see Lexington (15,368), Wayland(14,342), Weston (18,023), Hingham (10,816), Winchester (11,373) etc. (2009 per pupil expenditures per MA DESE in parens).  Then look at Cambridge which is an ongoing experiment to see if funding can close the achievement gap.  Cambridge spends 26,337 per student for mediocre results.

DESE per pupil expenditures is here http://finance1.doe.mass.edu/s...

So how do we come up with the other factors driving education and replicate, encourage, or somehow stimulate them to increase educational achievement?  Its not funding alone and I get concerned that the "answer" is always to spend more.  It may be that more needs to be spent, but let's see what's driving the results first before committing to even more spending.

So welcome aboard and look forward to lively discussion.

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by: ConsEph @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 22:29:46 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Good schools (0.00 / 0)

Good results in public schools occur for a few reasons

1) per pupil spending-Schools that spend more tend to get better results.
2) parental involvement-Read to your kids at an early age and your kids will be better prepared when they enter school.
3) smart parents-Smart parents have smart kids. Smart and well educated parents have real smart kids. Parents with high standards have smart kids.

There you have it. A simple recipe for success in public schools.

 

"Never, never, never give up" - Winston Churchill

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by: David Whelan @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 23:26:29 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Oh yea..I forgot (0.00 / 0)

Kids raised in households with a single parent, parents that do not speak english, or homes where neither parent has been well educated are screwed. These are the so-called "achievement gap" kids who live in the so-called "achievement gap" communities. Assuming for a moment that money does not grow on trees, I am left to conclude that ALL charter resources should be allocated to these so-called "achievement gap" communities. Longer school days, different teaching methodologies, and the freedom to teach kids without the interference of union nonsense. Until money does grow on trees we are left to fight Lyndon Johnson's 45 year war on poverty. LBJ actually had some good stuff to say in 1965. Problem is they thought throwing money at the problem and not changing the rules was the solution.

Oh yea. LBJ was also correct. You actually have to feed kids in the morning before they get to school. Try going to work someday and not eating anything until noon.

I now feel better. No more election woes. I've moved on to other issues and it feels damn good! Felt a little like the day after Pats - Giants Superbowl for a few days. It kinda sucked.

"Never, never, never give up" - Winston Churchill

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by: David Whelan @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 23:51:08 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Your concerns express the familial part of the equation (0.00 / 0)

I agree that one of, and go so far as to say the most important, the keys to academic success is parental involvement.  Without going into statistics, based on my common sense understanding, alone, the communities you mentioned are all on the affluent side and you can assume success breeds success.  It is also my understanding (and I may be wrong) that Cambridge is more diverse economically than the areas you mention.  I am not in favor of increased spending to close achievement gaps.  I believe the focus should be on strengthening families of underperforming schools and help them foster a love of learning in their children, as I do in my own children.  Thanks for the welcome.

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by: lawyerbc93 @ Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 16:25:08 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

PSA's are one step to strengthening familes (0.00 / 0)

A friend of mine who teaches SPED in Boston tells me that many of her parents lack the basic skills many of us, as parents, think of as instinctual, such as put your child to bed before 9:00 p.m.  She tells me that they are loving parents but just "don't know any better."  She believes a few Public Service Announcements modeling desirable parental behavior, including foreign language subtitles, and a web address might do wonders.  I agree with her.  

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by: lawyerbc93 @ Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 16:39:54 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

I Agree (0.00 / 0)

The discussion about education funding has always been about money without nearly as much focus on the impact of what happens at home.  Yet, we shy away from discussing how to best solve the issue at home by pouring more money into the schools, trying to "allocate" kids across schools based on social econmic factors and a myriad of other things.  And when we do have the discussions it always comes back to how do we "give" more resources to the families of the underperforming students.

I think we need to focus on parenting skills at a very early age.  Parents need to be able to tell their children "No TV", "No computer", "No cell phone or texting" and "you need to be at home and in bed at a reasonable hour".  This needn't cost much, but it will take a change in  mindset on behalf of the parent, politicians and police, yes police.  When I was growing up if you were out late on a school night, the police would stop and tell you to go home.  Now if they do that they face all sorts of complaints.

Yes, more old fashioned parenting, but it worked and, I think you may agree, it still works in the suburbs.

Its also not a D v. R thing.  Its how do we help make our kids more successful and prepared for their future as productive adults.

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by: ConsEph @ Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 17:54:16 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Lawyer - you're middle of the pack on issues. (5.00 / 1)

I'm pro-3%, pro-death penalty, and pro-choice myself.  We don't NEED to agree on every policy issue. Overall, your stances reflect a desire for a smaller, less intrusive, and more efficient government, and that's what we all really agree on.

Be prepared to be sneered at by purists, who have noise rather than numbers, who don't want anybody to run unless they agree with them 100%.  Of course, they don't run themselves, or lose when they do, but you seem fine to me.

Yr. Obedient Servant, Peter Porcupine, Republican

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by: Peter Porcupine @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 18:12:20 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

There most certainly is a place here for you. (0.00 / 0)

We (Republicans) are not looking for an echo chamber when it comes to our members. We want positive attitudes and can-do spirit but many of us differ on issues like abortion, same-sex issues, education...

Start here at RMG but more importantly, get involved in your local politics. Join your RTC (Republican Town Committee).

Welcome!

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by: JohnD @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 21:56:11 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Welcome !!!! (0.00 / 0)

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by: Christy Mihos @ Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 01:11:01 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

Welcome! (0.00 / 0)

   I became a Republican because of Christy.

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by: billxi @ Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 04:22:33 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

Sounds like Cile Hicks to me (0.00 / 0)

16 years in, in leadership in both the House and Senate, and took a traditionally democratic seat for the Repubs.

Good enough.

Come on down, Lawyerbc93!

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by: WeldforPrez @ Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 01:12:08 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

Oh yes, I miss Cile Hicks (0.00 / 0)

She was a terrific lady.

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by: Barbara Anderson @ Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 01:52:33 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

Still a terrific lady looking fine... (0.00 / 0)

Here at a Benefit Auction Gala for Historic New England Educational Programs

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by: StartedoutRepublican @ Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 12:45:15 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

THANK you, Started! I wondered how she was doing. (0.00 / 0)

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by: Barbara Anderson @ Sat Nov 06, 2010 at 03:37:49 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

I hope so (0.00 / 0)

since it looks like I agree with you on just about every issue.

If you don't have a place in the state GOP then maybe neither do I. :)

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by: Bobbie B @ Sat Nov 06, 2010 at 18:58:31 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

State Rep seats (5.00 / 1)

Are you taking credit for these state rep wins?  The state party did almost NOTHING for the majority of them.  Mass GOP failed at every statewide race.  Time to move on Jen.

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by: essexcountyconservative @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 15:17:00 PM UTC

Jenn is not a war time consigliari. (0.00 / 0)

While the Mass GOP were organizing minor league baseball game fundraisers....

   The MASS DEMS were organizing their message and GOTV effort, and they started 2 weeks after Brown won.

To quote a blogger on here.... Windage and Elevation.  

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by: Vincent Errichetti @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 15:27:33 PM UTC

That letter is a joke - Jenn should have resigned yesterday... (0.00 / 0)

Jenn Nassour basically put up a shield to block the nationwide tidal wave from hitting Massachusetts.

The most swings to the GOP for Congressional seats in two generations, and we don't get a single one. New York picked up a handful - and they had a much worse top of the ticket. But their state party did a great job with candidate selection and promotion. We laid an egg here. Hudak is the poster boy (no pun intended) - but in arguably the most fertile challenger district, he did the worst. In our best opportunity for a pickup, the open 10th, we lose. That was rated a toss-up.

Jenn touts the state rep pick-ups, but fails to note the net loss of a state senate seat - a complete debacle. There were certainly opportunities for pickups. And I believe the failure rests in large part on her.

The biggest crime of the day, however, was Mary. Seriously - someone really needs to explain how she lost that race. And again, for multiple reasons, the failure starts at the top.

Forget about policy differences. Forget about conservative wing of the party vs. more moderate wing of the party. She simply has been a weak leader of the party. The proof is in the pudding. Our neighbors to the north did fantastic. Okay, so we do not have a John Sununu the helm, but still, we should at least expect some level of competence. And our brethren from other blue states seemed to do fine too. Again, this has nothing to do with her being moderate, but everything to do with her (lack of) competence. We blew a major, major opportunity. There are plenty of anecdotes I can point too, but really, there is no need. The results are plainly obvious. Jenn must go.  

Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom.  

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by: Hayek @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 15:35:54 PM UTC

You helped? Really? (5.00 / 1)

I'm a conservative unenrolled voter who watched all of my candidates (except DeMacedo) lose.  Tom Keyes could have beat Murray if he had some money for exposure.  Did MA GOP provide any financial support there?  I don't think so.  Mary and Karen losing?  How?  Joe Malone and his nasty BS?  Heard someone say, and it is appropriate, that you guys better learn not to eat your own.  Malone should be asked to leave the Republican party because I fail to see what good he brings to the table.  You guys better learn to beat the Machine and their union thugs or you will never be able to rise above in this State.  Jennifer you may be a nice person but as my husband always says, "Nice gets you nowhere."

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by: AnnieBMA @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 16:05:12 PM UTC

Exactly - we need a party chair who can sit people down and tell them what's what... (0.00 / 0)

The Malone issue was a debacle. Jenn should have met with him and straightened that out. But she is very weak. Very.  

Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom.  

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by: Hayek @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 16:10:33 PM UTC

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please - Malone would have laughed in her face. (5.00 / 1)

And everyone and their grandmother knew Perry sucked, that's why he never had a chance.  Not because Malone pointed anything out.  

Molon Labe

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by: Republican Ram Rod Radio @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 16:19:43 PM UTC

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I agree - he would have laughed in her face, that's the problem (0.00 / 0)

He would not have laughed in John Sununu's face, for example. Right, wrong, or indifferent, Malone lost the primary - at that point, he should have only opened his mouth to support Jeff. A strong GOP chair points that out.  

Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom.  

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by: Hayek @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 16:34:31 PM UTC

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Malone is not the problem, Perry's Portrayal was (0.00 / 0)

as much as i like perry's positions... he was portrayed repeatedly as a scumbag on television. f that portrayal was Right or Wrong I don't know nor really care anymore (we knew it was coming). Malone's silence or enthusiastic endorsement would not have done a damn thing to increase the voter totals for Perry by that substantial of a margin for him to beat keating.

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by: tonid @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 16:57:13 PM UTC

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He would not have laughed in John Sununu's face (0.00 / 0)

OMG!!!! I know!

Sununu scares the hell out of me!  If I was shooting my mouth off about Jeff Perry and Sununu walked up behind me ... tapped me on the shoulder.  Yeah - I'd shut up in a second and I'd slither out of that room sooooooo fast.

Molon Labe

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by: Republican Ram Rod Radio @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 17:12:43 PM UTC

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I Perry sucked... (0.00 / 0)

...why couldn't Malone beat him?

The guy is missing in action for what... 20 some odd years and expects to beat a guy who's been working for 20 years in his district?

Malone should have kept his mouth shut.

When Novak ran for State Rep after he beat me for State Committee...  I kept my mouth shut.  He didn't have a chance, and now he's in jail.  But at the time, I kept my mouth shut.

Conversely, I was asked to run for State Rep at the same time, and there was no way I would have gotten a good word from him.  He would have worked against me like Joe Malone did with Joe Perry.  It's the culture of the Massachusetts Republican Party.

"Don't let me get away with it. Check me out. Don't be the sucker generation." -Ronald Reagan

www.inBrockton.com

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by: BrocktonDave @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 17:22:56 PM UTC

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OK enough. (5.00 / 1)

Just for get focused here on something specific:  I want someone to tell me exactly how Jennifer was supposed to deal with the Malone thing. All suggestions must be legal. Kidnapping for the duration of a campaign is not allowed. I can't wait to hear how a "not weak" chairman would have done it.
When that has been explained, now tell me how you would match the unions in GOTV. Send a note to employers telling them to give our activists election day off?
While you are working on this, try to deal with SocComs who want your head because you are trying to keep the Party focused on fiscal issues that can help it win.  

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by: Barbara Anderson @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 18:41:14 PM UTC

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can't wait for the answer........ (0.00 / 0)

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by: StartedoutRepublican @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 19:18:11 PM UTC

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Simple (0.00 / 0)

I will start with the hypothetical - if Giuliani or Cellucci told Malone to keep his mouth shut, would he? Those are two off the top of my head who I believe would simply have to say it straight up to Malone and he would do it.

How was Jenn supposed to? I am not sure - I don't think she has it in her. The real question - did she even try? My guess is she did not. An 11th commandment violation - especially AFTER the primary should have been dealth with swiftly and sternly.


Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom.  

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by: Hayek @ Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 00:22:09 AM UTC

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That's your suggestion? (0.00 / 0)

that Cellucci tell Malone what to do? You do remember their bitter fight for the governorship? Why would Malone listen to Giuliani either?
YOu don't think Jenn has what in her that you don't know what to do?
Oh I get it, you are joking.  About the 11th commandment thing.  Did you just enter the Republican Party universe?  

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by: Barbara Anderson @ Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 01:59:10 AM UTC

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CFBLAKE's Comment (0.00 / 0)

Cliff your comment because of the long string of $$$$$$'s broke the page (made it too wide)  SO I deleted it.  Please resubmit without the 100 $ characters

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by: Rob "EaBo Clipper" Eno @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 16:47:28 PM UTC

Jennifer Nassour and other posts here are "picking at straws"... (0.00 / 0)

...in trying to find positive things and positive spins, for the profound disaster that was November 2, for the Massachusetts GOP and general Massachusetts conservative/other non-leftist sides! This "picking at straws" ritual is creeping me out, because it doesn't involve enough reality, when fully discussing the complete aftermath of what happened in Massachusetts on November 2. The total voter registration of Massachusetts Republicans went from 13% to 11%=IT WENT DOWN 2% THIS YEAR! If there really was a wave of Republican support throughout Massachusetts, then why not, also, any kind of increase ("bump") in the total number of Massachusetts registered Republicans this year? Lack of full financial support for all Massachusetts GOP candidates, at all political levels, is an ongoing, many decades old problem for the entire Massachusetts GOP, and those who bring this up are correct. But, the major reason for the ongoing losing streak of the Massachusetts GOP in the majority of races is this: There are not enough total voter numbers on the Massachusetts GOP and non-leftist sides to create realistic chances for political victory at the highest political levels, throughout Massachusetts, and this continues to be an unsolvable problem that has existed for more than sixty years, in Massachusetts! Add to this that people and businesses continue to move out of Massachusetts, taking with them many pro-GOP votes and even more of the pro-conservative votes, while all of "the usual suspects" on the pro-left side: union families, those with trust funds, those on welfare, illegal immigrants, college students, teachers, trial lawyers,...remain in Massachusetts. Now that the Democrats won "big", yet again, throughout Massachusetts, expect taxes to get higher, more "red tape", more anti-businesses legislation to be passed, more amnesty for illegal immigrants=more registered voters for the Democrats, allowing criminals to vote in future elections=more registered voters for the Democrats, and everything else that's pro-leftist to pass in the state legislature. MOVE OUT OF MASSACHUSETTS, ASAP, IF YOU CAN, BECAUSE THIS IS THE DEFINITIVE ANSWER FOR WHAT NON-LEFTISTS, STILL IN MASSACHUSETTS, REALLY NEED TO DO! Non-leftists will continue to lose the majority of races throughout future Massachusetts elections, and anybody who disagrees with this fact will continue to be disappointed with the final future election results. Massachusetts is a lost cause for all non-leftists. Do the sensible, sane thing and leave Massachusetts, asap, if you can, and get help from other people to make this possible.

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by: johnthebaptistmoore @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 17:27:04 PM UTC

YOU move! I was here before you! (0.00 / 0)

Yr. Obedient Servant, Peter Porcupine, Republican

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by: Peter Porcupine @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 17:59:47 PM UTC

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I know, it's not as if (0.00 / 0)

we have to find a canyon in Colorado named Galt's Gulch to hide in. There are lots of other states that are better than here. I did tell my son when he graduated to get the heck out of Dukakis' Massachusetts, and now I wouldn't want my grandchildren to grow up here.  I myself have always enjoyed the challenge though.  

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by: Barbara Anderson @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 18:50:15 PM UTC

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We have two GOP Governor's Councilors (0.00 / 0)

Republican Charles Cippolini defated Democrat Oliver Cippolini in the first distrct. Why did Nassour leave this out?

Also, we picked up a Plymouth County Commissioner's seat with Sandra Wright's win down there.

(R)- Outside 495

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by: MerrimackMan @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 17:35:38 PM UTC

A true conservative would advocate for... (4.00 / 1)

...the abolition of the Gov's Council...same thing goes for county Government in this state...both are complete wastes of money and their functions can be handles elsewhere.

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by: Simple J. Malarkey @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 23:39:14 PM UTC

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No Assface (0.00 / 0)

   A true conservative would advocate for abolition of the ABCC. That is where the hacks are. Jan Kujawski better polish up his resume, his brother can't help him keep his job anymore.

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by: billxi @ Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 04:35:57 AM UTC

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Scott Brown (0.00 / 0)

Brown better start building his voter identification and GOTV apparatus pronto. He won't have the out of state tea partiers on the ground doing the legwork in 2012.

Clearly, the MA GOP leadership  is by and for a group of inside consultants, who can't get the job done.

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by: kingsmill @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 19:20:15 PM UTC

Cahill Attacks (5.00 / 1)

In my opinion, there was too much effort put in to negative attacks of Tim Cahill and not enough ads discussing why the voters should vote for their Republican neighbors, about why we are the better choice for their votes, etc.

They need a reason to vote for us.  The candidates were out meeting people but there needs to be that message from the top.  

All I heard was complaints about those ads every where I went.

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by: Ms4thMiddlesex @ Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 00:58:13 AM UTC

Good point (0.00 / 0)

Baker had a serious name recognition problem.

Molon Labe

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by: Republican Ram Rod Radio @ Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 13:22:10 PM UTC

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Better point (0.00 / 0)

Baker also had a serious staff problem. He didn't, however, have a $ problem thanks to Jen Nassur.

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by: BRallot @ Sat Nov 06, 2010 at 19:09:43 PM UTC

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that's true! (0.00 / 0)

Molon Labe

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by: Republican Ram Rod Radio @ Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 18:56:33 PM UTC

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Any (0.00 / 0)

Legislative candidates have paid campaign staffers? Just curious. Not comparing state-wide governor's race, but these campaigns seem to attract big-salary "consultants" that invariably miss-diagnose the electorate. There's something to be said for volunteer campaign management.

Million dollar overhead for staff salaries seems like a complete misuse of funds. Better the money get spent on GOTV in the last month than salaries in the first 14 months.

I think Charlie had a compelling, winning message. The execution left a lot to be desired, as many have pointed out before, and better, than I could.

It's a shame because Charlie was the right candidate for these times and Massachusetts voters have missed a once-in-a-generation chance to really reform state government. I mean REALLY reform it. New Jersey is looking better all the time.

G.O.P. Growth. Opportunity. Prosperity. For all Americans.

Karl (TLC)Weld

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by: TLCWeld @ Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 19:11:59 PM UTC

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My Goodness, she got a picture of herself in the attic? (0.00 / 0)

She looks like she hasn't changed since she left the Senate in '96... Maybe she should make a comeback!

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by: WeldforPrez @ Sun Nov 07, 2010 at 01:43:48 AM UTC

Sorry - comment not in the right thread (0.00 / 0)

...that last comments was about the picture of Cile Hicks up above.

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by: WeldforPrez @ Sun Nov 07, 2010 at 01:44:40 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

hotpantyhose (0.00 / 0)

hotpantyhose

hotpantyhose

hotpantyhose  

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