Michael Graham weighs in on MassGOP caucus woes, and it ain't pretty

Rob it right, this is all supremely unnecessary. (0.00 / 0)

It is also staggeringly irresponsible to be fighting so viciously over something so unimportant.

Smartin up, and knock it off.

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by: Philippic @ Wed Jun 27, 2012 at 13:20:32 PM UTC

It would be nice to see more rank and file fight this corruption (0.00 / 0)

The entire party is taking the heat for the actions of a few. Most of these moves were made without informing, or misinforming the various members of the State Committee. Now that they know the score, they can no longer hide behind the veil of ignorance.  

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by: Sawx75 @ Wed Jun 27, 2012 at 14:04:33 PM UTC

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Someday... (0.00 / 0)

   Our party is going to realize that principle is worthless unless you can back it up with numbers.
  Democrats have us outnumbered, what, 36% to 11%. Do you realize that they can have a lousy 33% turnout, and soundly beat our 100% turnout?
  The delegate caucuses were a brilliantly contrived scenario. Brought about by veteran Republicans who brought dozens of new Republicans into activity.
  So what do the "party regulars" do? They challenge the loyalty of good Republicans by suddenly coming up with "loyalty" oaths. How would you feel if your loyalty and good name or reputation were challenged. Yeah, it's a little upsetting.
  So, for all you machiavellian rug-flippers: do not expect my support for ANYTHING you endeavor.
   

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by: billxi @ Wed Jun 27, 2012 at 15:02:00 PM UTC

I could argue both sides of this issue. (0.00 / 0)

The MassGOP needs money people and powerful people as well as activists.

After Ron Paul is done, do his supporters try to move the party in a new direction?

As I understand it the whole delegate process has always been a sham, that individual candidates have stacked and won the caucuses in the past, then later were thrown out.

So because the RP folks played as if it was a real game, do they still get to win because we're "fair" ?

Again, I could argue either side of this issue.

I do have one thing to add. While I was standing out raising awareness with a Brown & Tisei sign on primary day in March, the only other people I saw were here

Ron Paul supporters

and in some of my reposts of it I noted the need to figure out a way to keep these people involved. It would have been nice to see a few Romney signs out there, but I guess they couldn't be bothered, just like they couldn't be bothered to get their supporters to the caucuses.

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by: tomasek1000 @ Wed Jun 27, 2012 at 17:25:20 PM UTC

There are not many supporters (0.00 / 0)

The Ron Paul people also worked to nominate libertarian transhumanists Romney and Baker even as they were also voting for Ron Paul, which left social conservatives who want natural sexual reproduction with no one to support.

If there was a conservative to support instead of libertarian transhumanists pretending to be conservative, people would get involved. But people didn't even know that there such a thing as libertarian transhumanists until they started organizing themselves and trying to make it happen, by controlling the media and the parties and the government.

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by: John Howard @ Wed Jun 27, 2012 at 19:07:52 PM UTC

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This nonsense (0.00 / 0)

....this BS going back and forth within the Party...the "RINO!!!" hunting....this sort of stupid shi'ite is why I do not join the MaGOP.

"I acknowledge having racist and classist and sexist feelings of white male superiority." -John Howard

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by: ElectricStrawberry @ Wed Jun 27, 2012 at 18:52:33 PM UTC

The Maginn organization is an embarassment (0.00 / 0)

Bob Maginn is in office for one purpose alone- to use the resources of the party to benefit Mitt Romney.  He doesn't care about building the party.  He doesn't care about encouraging grass-roots activists.  He wants his candidate to win a national office, so he can move on to a lofty patronage position.  Regardless of the result in November, I'd be amazed if we see Maginn serve out the balance of his term.  

I am not a Paul supporter.  Due to a lack of good candidates, I voted for Romney in the primary because he had the best chance of beating Obama in the fall.  I participated in the caucus, foolishly believing that it was a fair and democratic process.  I so wish I had gone to my son's baseball game instead.  I voted for most of the Romney slate in my caucus, despite the overbearing tactics used by the Romney campaign and the MassGOP.  I will vote for Romney in November.  I'll continue to support candidates who believe what I believe.  But I will never pay another nickel to the MassGOP or attend one of their events.  

Romney won the primary overwhelmingly.  I would support a rule which allows the winner of the primary to appoint his own slate of delegates.  To the victor go the spoils and all that.  That's not the rule we had in place for this year, though.  The rules provided for democratic caucuses, and in many cases the Romney slate lost.  Changing the rules after the final whistle is third world dictatorship abuse, which is unbecoming a civic organization in the United States.  Shame on Mitt, shame on Bob, shame on the party consigliere who does the bidding of the bosses.  They all made an ugly mess, which they will all soon be free to leave behind.      

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by: Bravehaht @ Wed Jun 27, 2012 at 23:48:32 PM UTC