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Why hasn't Demos sued New York or other deeply blue states?

by: Rob "EaBo Clipper" Eno

Thu Aug 09, 2012 at 08:35:30 AM EDT


Demos' claims of non-partisan activity don't pass the smell test.  In a press release yesterday, Demos listed the states where it has successfully sued to enforce the motor voter law.  A hint, there aren't any "blue states" besides Massachusetts.

Demos' twelve-year history of working to build a robust democracy in which every American has a voice has included, since 2004, state-by-state efforts to ensure the enforcement of the NVRA at public agencies across the country. In partnership with local groups and national voting rights organizations, Demos' efforts have led to compliance with the law and resulted in the registration of almost 1.5 million otherwise illegally disenfranchised voters in states including Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, New Mexico, Ohio, and Virginia.

Never mind that these people weren't "disenfranchised" they could have registered to vote in a variety of other ways.  What you should really focus on is the state's wehre the activity happened.  Primarily Red and or swing states.  And this year, they went to what is considered a very blue state.  Why?  Because their Chairman of the Board's mom needed the help.   That's why.  

Any other explanation doesn't pass a smell test.  

Rob "EaBo Clipper" Eno :: Why hasn't Demos sued New York or other deeply blue states?
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Were those other states already in compliance? (0.00 / 0)
I would assume Demos only sues states that aren't following the motor voter law. Maybe Mass. is the first "blue" state that wasn't following it.  

When the counter arguement (0.00 / 0)
involves the word 'maybe' things aren't looking good.

Suffering Battered Voter Syndrome since 8/31/1981

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Question is (0.00 / 0)
the list of states in the blockquote isn't complete.  For example, NY was sued because DSS visitors supposedly weren't informed of their right to register.

And without running more sophisticated statistical analysis to this data it appears at quick glance that the NVRA has done NOTHING to voter turnout since the law was passed.

And New York?  The bastien of true blue and target of a good hand slapping in the referenced lawsuit.  NY turnout is lowest in nation

Want turnout?  Pass a law giving everyone $10 to vote or a lottery ticket.  Then you'll see turnout.  But seriously, is that what society wants?  When you're motivated to vote, vote.  If not, then, not.

Elizabeth Warren: a bankruptcy professor, bankrupt of ideas


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How does (0.00 / 0)
this group have standing to file a lawsuit in the first place?
2)  Where does the federal government get the authority to force states to send voter registration forms to welfare recipients?  I've been trying to find that power in the Constitution and don't see it anywhere.

I don't want it any easier for people to vote...because it does not need to be any easier.  It's already easy.  You register.  You vote on election day.  Every attempt to make it easier simply invites fraud...wanted fraud into the system.
Absentee ballots for everyone
Same day registration
NOT requiring ID
Early voting
Late voting

Where does it stop???

"I acknowledge having racist and classist and sexist feelings of white male superiority." -John Howard


To Electric's point, (0.00 / 0)
how is the remedy to the RMV not registering voters per the provisions of the NVRA to be mailing registration forms out to welfare recipients?

Shouldn't the remedy be to make the RMV comply with the law? Why bring another department, one that is not required by law, to do the function that the RMV is supposed to be doing under the law. Unless you have a different agenda and you only want certain types of people to register to vote. Like those on welfare. Who are more likely to vote for your lying, ultra-liberal, anti-capitalist, anti-free market, you didn't build that spouting mother.

G.O.P. Growth. Opportunity. Prosperity. For all Americans.

Karl (TLC)Weld


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Blue states (0.00 / 0)
Rob, your post doesn't pass the smell test. You say in your headline and in the third sentence that Demos did not sue successfully in any other "blue states" besides Massachusetts. But by anyone's definition, Illinois is a "blue state." So is Michigan, which last voted Republican in a presidential election in 1988. Then there's New Mexico, which is always labeled a swing state but in reality has only voted for one Republican presidential candidate since 1988.  

Some of the states are historically "red," some are "blue," and some are "purple." With the exception of Missouri and Mississippi, what these states mainly have in common is that they have significant populations.


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I meant New Mexico when I wrote Missouri. Missouri is relatively populous.

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Lets take a deeper look beyond presidential elections (0.00 / 0)
IL - 11 of 19 Congressional districts Red
MI - 9 of 15 Congressional districts Red

Smells like a swing state as far as congressional districts go.

NY - 8 of 29

Smells like I was right.


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It's not passing my smell test either EaBo! (0.00 / 0)


Molon Labe

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So, as of 2006, (5.00 / 1)
Massachusetts is a red state!!!

Afterall, MA had a Republican governor for 16 years!!

"I acknowledge having racist and classist and sexist feelings of white male superiority." -John Howard


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You know... (0.00 / 0)
Easier solution would have been simply asking people on welfare to go get an ID at the registry and register to vote at the same time. Then since anyone LEGALLY on welfare had an ID, there would be no issue with asking for them to show ID before voting, right?

Funny how Demos wasn't interested in a solution to cut down on voter fraud, only one that increases it.


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Illegally disenfranchised rubbish (0.00 / 0)
There's a lawsuit because a law, ineffective from the inception, was to the surprise of few, a failure.

Take the guy going to get his license:  He wants a license and doesn't want to get something else that will take up his time.  Or the guy at the welfare office: he wants welfare, not a lecture on the democratic process. It's like going to the bakery and having someone try to sell you a gym membership.

I can imagine the DTA interview or the RMV officer:

DTA/RMV: are you registered to vote?
A: no
DTA/RMV:  ok, we can just fill out this form and it'll take a few minutes.
A: er...no, I'm registered now that I think about it.

The very notion that a society should spend resources trying to motivate someone to undertake a simple task is first, misguided and wasteful but second, delusional.  Delusional, that the vote of a politically disinterested and unmotivated citizen is beneficial to society.


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