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Who Will Challenge Richard Tisei In The LG Primary?

by: Garrett Quinn

Sun Nov 29, 2009 at 15:47:16 PM EST


(This has to be brought back. The outrage over Richard Tisei and his candidacy for LG is extremely interesting. It's been a few months now so why hasn't somebody on that side stepped forward to challenge him? One GOP operative told me that they find the outrage with no vehicle to be "a rookie move that is causing unnecessary friction."

Now that Jeff Perry is running for congress that leaves only...Karyn Polito? DeMacedo? Somebody with deep pockets?

The caucuses and meetings for delegates are taking place now. The clock is ticking for all the Tisei Haters to do something other than bitch and post on RMG.   - promoted by Garrett Quinn)

Charlie Baker's announcement of Richard Tisei as his preferred running mate for the 2010 campaign was greeted with a mostly negative response from RMGers. The negativity ranged from concerns over who will fill Tisei's senate seat to his opposition to CLT's income tax rollback in 2000 to his positions on social issues to a general lack of creativity. Those who praised his nomination touted his experience as Senate Minority Leader, his general competence, and his tendency to "not go off the reservation."

Assuming Baker wins the primary there is no guarantee that Tisei will be his running mate in the general election. It is still early and a primary for lieutenant governor is not out of the question. Joe Sheehan and DD4RP have posted extensively about the potential candidates for lieutenant governor. Now that Baker has selected Tisei none of them will likely consider running for lieutenant governor because the party establishment is backing Baker-not surprising due to all the bridge burning done by Christy Mihos in 2006-and most elected state Republicans will be weary of rocking that boat.

Oops, almost forgot...there is this bro named Jeff Perry who represents the Fifth Barnstable District and he makes sweet YouTube videos.

Garrett Quinn :: Who Will Challenge Richard Tisei In The LG Primary?
Perry has shown signs for the last year that he is trying to expand his profile beyond his district. It started with his brief challenge last November to Minority Leader Brad Jones and continued with his new book about the state of the GOP. Perry has lectured about the future of the party frequently at state colleges. He is still well liked by the small but very active and vocal contingent of the social conservative wing of the party due to his position on gay marriage. He has a strong rating from CLT and has pushed hard to implement the 2000 income tax rollback all the way to 5%.

A primary race for lieutenant governor between Perry and Tisei would be an exciting and entertaining undercard in the 2010 campaign. It would set up a race between both the moderate wing and the more conservative wing of the party. If Perry announces a candidacy it would likely melt the servers of RMG and set off an argument between conservatives, moderates, and libertarians that would make the discussion over Tisei's candidacy look tame. The downside to a primary is that two legislative seats would be vacant in the 2010 election instead of one. Perry is the only Republican on Cape Cod and his representative district is within Senate President Therese Murray's senate district; a strong Democratic challenge to fill the seat would be likely.

In Massachusetts no Republican held seat is safe and the GOP can't afford to lose ANY seats.


Note: It doesn't appear that the Mihos campaign will create their own primary ticket.  His campaign declined to comment on the Tisei pick when I asked them. (Their response was simply, "No.")

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Awkward - Perry is a huge Baker organizer/supporter, headling Cape Cod Baker events. (0.00 / 0)
So how does he run against Baker's 'choice'?

Yr. Obedient Servant, Peter Porcupine, Republican

Why Not Another State Office? (0.00 / 0)
I like Jeff and think he has much to offer the state.  However, the thought of 2 GOP members of the Legislature challenging each other for the LG position does not make much sense to me.  

Which leads to the question - would Jeff be better suited to run for Secretary of State (against the prince of darkness), A.G. or Treasurer?  He has the background and experience, not to mention demeanor, to be successful in any of those positions and would warrant serious support.


...there is no Republican candidate for Treasurer yet, correct? (0.00 / 1)
At least I haven't heard a name.

It appears we'll have a bumper crop of openings this election--Auditor, Treasurer, AG, LG and Gov.  A more established Republican--like a Hedlund or a Tarr--could beat Mary C in a primary.  Maybe Polito and Perry run for Treasurer.  It would be fun to watch and scary for R's if they all lose in the end.


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Polito is ast least Spag's granddaughter - but Perry is an ex-cop with negligible financial experience. (0.00 / 0)


Yr. Obedient Servant, Peter Porcupine, Republican

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I did not know that about Karen... (0.00 / 0)


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That's an old comment. (0.00 / 0)
The post was re promoted by garrett from a while back.

Bob Hedlund for Minority Leader.

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Did I miss something? (0.00 / 0)
HELP!! Did I miss something?  Fetus died in one of the MOST classy send offs I have ever seen.  I was seriously jealous how classy it was. Now he/she is back?  Or is this a brother/sister blogging in his memory?  

"Together we are the GOP team"

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He never left (0.00 / 0)
He has been interjecting under different names since the day of his send off.  Both here and elsewhere.

Follow me on twitter @garyrlake

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...artfully said... (2.00 / 3)
..." the small but very active and vocal contingent of the social conservative wing of the party"...

Artful but untrue (4.50 / 2)
Most Republicans here in Massachusetts are socially conservative.  Garrett isn't one of them, lives in Cambridge, and is a recovering moonbat so he doesn't see it.

Bob Hedlund for Minority Leader.

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Hey! (5.00 / 1)
It has been five years, two months, and three days since I last enjoyed reading The Nation...

"The prediction here is that RMG will peter out in a couple of months." - Adam Reilly, 2/28/2007

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About the same for me (0.00 / 0)
Though I only switched to the New Republic and not Reason as I suspect you did. Btw I am also a recovering moonbat from Cambridge, did you go to CRLS by any chance?  

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Probably Nobody (0.00 / 0)

Given that the entire GOP delegation save Hedlund has endorsed Baker, it would be very difficult for any of them to challenge Baker's choice.  To even be viable, a candidate would have to essentially run with Mihos who has stated that it is not his intent to run with anyone.  I don't see anyone that is likely to get into the race.  Even if they did, it would be very dicey for an unknown at the convention.  Since Tisei will likely attack Mihos during the period between now and the September primary, I think that Baker has boxed Christy in on this one.  

I can personally think of multiple Baker Supporters... (5.00 / 1)
...myself included who would welcome and support a Primary vs. Leftist candidate Richard Tisie.

"(He) is a Meathead"

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Christy might have boxed himself in (0.00 / 1)


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Tisie , Perry, Hedlund (5.00 / 1)
A primary challenge to Tisie would be tough.  I think he would be good LG but I disagree with further weakening Rep. ranks in the Legislature.
As for Perry, a more likely scenario would be a showdown with Hedlund in a 10th CD primary someday maybe.   Perry certainly is up to something!

Baker Tisei at the end of the Day! (5.00 / 2)
My guess is that Tisei will sail through even with a primary.  The guy has won 13 elections in a row in a Democratic area.  Why some on this site may not be thrilled with him, he has certianly proven that he knows how to win.  The guy is a fundraising machine and with Baker channeling his resources to him - he will be unstoppable.  I have already been solicited twice by people I really respect.  I got an email saying he has 6 fundraisers set up in the area for December alone.

Plus he has helped a ton of candidates over the years and been very loyal to the party.  After 25 years thats a lot of chits to cash in.   Watch this guy he is the hardest worker I have ever seen and a great campaigner.



He has won 13 elections alone in a democratic area... (3.33 / 3)
Because he mirrors their beliefs.  

Alex S.
Chairman of the Springfield RCC
Mandate to Lead!!! lol


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And he will be running in a democratic state (5.00 / 1)
with plenty of fiscally conservative, socially liberal democrats and independents as a Republican who mirrors their beliefs.

I can't believe you don't see a winning team when you see it.  


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if only he was a "Fiscal Conservative" n/t (0.00 / 0)


"(He) is a Meathead"

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I see, potentially... (0.00 / 0)
Social Conservatives flocking to Cahill if he runs on the social issues like pro-life and so forth. Baker needs something to balance the ticket, not to alienate a wing of his own party.

Alex S.
Chairman of the Springfield RCC
Mandate to Lead!!! lol


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If you're going to run on just Taxes and spending.... (5.00 / 1)
You should have a LG who's good on taxes and spending.  

Tisei is not.

Bob Hedlund for Minority Leader.


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Isn't the name of the game to win? (5.00 / 1)
Thank God we had at least one republican in office in our area!

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I thought the name of the game was (5.00 / 3)
* good government
* principles
* advocating for Republican causes

Guess I was wrong, but at least we know where you're at.

Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.


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Win what ? Why not just run as a Dem then ?? (4.50 / 2)


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Dwindling (0.00 / 0)
I like the point thats mentioned in the end of this piece. Will a robust, healthy primary for Lg be worth making the GOP presence on Beacon Hill even more scarce than it already is? I'm not saying it is or isn't. Just saying it's something to think about.

Everyone's a liberal until they get their first paycheck.

Another thought (4.33 / 3)
Think of the amount of free press, delegate partisipation etc that would come from 2 Republican Legislators running in a Primary.

Both are sitting elected officials, young enought to make a come back even if they lost, so neither would go postal like some of the crazy annual candidates.

Not for nothing, but strong Parties in red states have Primaries that don't pull apart the Party ebcause the people running in the Primaries are already elected officials. That is something that keeps most primaries managable and ensures life boat shoot outs are less likely.  


give me a smith & wesson .50 cal (0.00 / 0)
I'm all in support of primaries and life-boat shootouts... so long as they take place BEFORE the primary election and afterwards we all work together with whomever wins the said race.  

Alex S.
Chairman of the Springfield RCC
Mandate to Lead!!! lol


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embarassing (0.00 / 0)
Stop posting stuff like this! I know you all love politics, but really. Do not get cocky after Scott Brown's victory. There can be no primaries. There can be no Republicans voting for Cahill or Christy Mihos. Sheesh.  

Dude, check the date on the posting. (0.00 / 0)
This is a new promotion of an earlier discussion. Garrett believes that it is relevant now, but almost everything came in late November, i.e., before the US Senate primaries.

I generally agree with your position (to an extent), but jeez. You're not doing yourself any favours. Please pay attention! ;-)

Eric Gittleman
Boston Ward 21 Republican Committee (Allston, Brighton, Fenway/Kenmore)

My views do not necessarily reflect those of the Ward 21 Republican Committee, the Boston Republican City Committee, or any officers or members thereof.


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Oh, wait, you're just being sarcastic. (0.00 / 0)
Still, I hope you noted that this is an earlier diary that has been newly-promoted. :-D

Eric Gittleman
Boston Ward 21 Republican Committee (Allston, Brighton, Fenway/Kenmore)

My views do not necessarily reflect those of the Ward 21 Republican Committee, the Boston Republican City Committee, or any officers or members thereof.


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No (0.00 / 0)
wasn't being sarcastic. That's how I really feel. But thanks for info on posting date. I never understood/stand how this site works.  

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[hidden comment] You are all out of your minds!!!!!!! (0.00 / 3)
Why don't you all just grow up!!!!!!! Your attacking a candidate for Lt. Governor over issues that not only Baker but also Mihos agree with him on.... Answer me this question why have you chosen to attack Tisei and not Baker and not Mihos for having the same stance on the issues...Don't know how long any of you have been following government but last I checked it was the Governor that made the decisions not the Lt. Governor. I am supporting Charlie Baker because I believe he will make the right decisions to bring our state back up to where it needs to be..... And I don't see how any of you can say that you are supporting Baker, but think the first decision he made was wrong.... Does it make any sense to you????? I support Baker and his first decision as a candidate to choose Tisei

For the Last Time!!! (1.00 / 2)
Tisei does not have the same stance as Baker and Mihos on gay marriage.  He is an advocate not just "for it".  What that means is he actively promotes the leftist agenda and wants public funding for abortion.  That is to the left of both Baker, Mihos, and incidentally, the House & Senate Democrats.

Please, please, ask questions before you just regurgitate talking points from the Baker Camp.

Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.


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[hidden comment] Open up your eyes and ears!!!!!!!! (0.00 / 2)
Charlie Baker does have the same stance, opinion and support for Gay Marriage that Richard Tisei has.... I think you need to be the one that checks your facts before you regurgitate the attacks of your Anti Tisei camp!!!

- So what many of you here on redmass group are telling me is that Baker is good enough to be your governor and make decisions for you family and state, but his very first decision was a bad one???? Come on now people put some trust in the guy... Scott Brown and all of the other legislators are fully supporting Richard Tisei, why cant you trust those who run your party!!!!


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Tisei objections are not on a single issue (0.00 / 0)
It is about many issues, and his extreme left wing positions on those many issues.

Bob Hedlund for Minority Leader.

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D'OH! (0.00 / 0)
So you really are a troll.  Bravo!  I fell for it.  Fellas, check thepeople1's IP Address and grab me a martini.

Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.

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Carpe Demi - Brown Supporters (2.00 / 1)
Now - is the time to be heard!

Don't allow our soft Republican brother to fool you into accepting Social Liberal candidates. Let your voices be heard.

The shift in politics happened Jan 19th - keep the drive alive toward our Center Right Massachusetts.

Raise up and send Baker a message! Your welcome in the party - we will find a place for you just not as our Social Liberal governor.

Draft a better Lt.Gov. for Massachusetts.  


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