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Red Mass Group Files Public Records Request For Emails from UMass Climate System Research Center

by: Rob "EaBo Clipper" Eno

Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 08:56:50 AM EST


( - promoted by EaBo Clipper)

Yesterday I, on behalf of Red Mass Group, filed a public records request under Massachusetts General Law 66 for any and all emails from Professor Raymond S. Bradley, his team, and his research center to the East Anglia University Climate Research Institute.  According to the Washington Times Professor Bradley was on the receiving end of some of the emails uncovered as a result of the hack at East Anglia University.

In another e-mail, Mr. Jones told Mr. Mann, professor Malcolm K. Hughes of the University of Arizona and professor Raymond S. Bradley of the University of Massachusetts at Amherst: "I'm getting hassled by a couple of people to release the CRU station temperature data. Don't any of you three tell anybody that the UK has a Freedom of Information Act!"

Openness and transparency is at the heart of the scientific process.  In that vein I sent the following email to the University of Massachusetts Yesterday.

Mr. Blaguszewski,

By way of introduction my name is Robert Eno and I own the leading conservative blog in Massachusetts http://www.redmassgroup.com .  I have come upon information that Professor Raymond S. Bradley of our Public Land Grant University has been cited in emails hacked from the East Anglia University's Climate Research Unit.  According to Washington Times Professor Bradley was in Receipt of an email that asked him to keep quiet about the UK's Freedom of Information Act laws so that nobody could get the raw data used in climate research.

It is my belief that science conducted with public funds at a public university, our public university, should be conducted in as open a process as possible.  That is why I am seeking to under the Commonwealth's public record laws obtain access to all email and other written communications between Professor Raymond S. Bradley, and his research team, with both the East Anglia University Climate Research Unit and the IPCC.  Below you will find my Public Records Act Request

December 4, 2009

Edward Blaguzewski
Director of Press Relations
University of Massachusetts Amherst
Amherst MA

RE: Public Records Request

This is a request under the Massachusetts Public Records Law (M. G. L. Chapter 66, Section 10).

I am requesting that I be provided a copy of the following documents:

   * All electronic mail between Professor Raymond S. Bradley, his research assistants, and any employee of the UMass Climate Systems Research Center and any employee or student of the East Anglia Research Unit.

   * All electronic mail between Professor Raymond S. Bradley, his research assistants, and any employee of the UMass Climate Systems Research Center and any employee or administrator of the International Panel on Climate Change

   * The amount and source of all funding for the Research directed by Raymond S. Bradley, his research assistants or the UMass Climate Systems Research Center

I recognize that you may charge reasonable costs for photocopies, computer disks, or personnel time to comply with this request. If you expect charges to exceed $50, please contact me regarding this request.  In addition I would like to receive all electronically available records on a Compact Disc to reduce costs.

As you are aware, I must be provided with this information within 10 days. If you cannot comply with my request, please provide an explanation in writing.

Sincerely,

Robert Eno

Rob "EaBo Clipper" Eno :: Red Mass Group Files Public Records Request For Emails from UMass Climate System Research Center
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Great stuff (5.00 / 1)

Hopefully, they will comply with the request.

Go get'm Rob. Is there anything we here at RMG, can do to help ? (0.00 / 0)


Yes (5.00 / 1)
Depending on how much money this request will "cost" I may need donations.  Often exhorbitant fees are concocted to limit access to information.

Full Disclosure


http://www.redmassgroup.com/pr...


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If you didn't cast such a wide net... (0.00 / 0)
...the potential costs would be a lot lower.  By throwing in caveats like "any employee" you given them lots of excuses to: a) tell you within 10 days that they need much more time to collect all the info from all the employees and b) gives them an excuse to charge mucho "reasonable fees" to provide you with all the emails.  (I believe they get to charge you for the staff time it takes to find all the info your asking for...not just the cost of copying the info).

A smarter approach would have been to submit a bunch of smaller  and specific requests over a period of time--for example start with the Bradley and East Angiia.  That way they have no excuse to say the request was so broad that it will take time and money to fulfill it...then submit another FOIA request.

As for the substance of all this...you still haven't come close to demonstrating there is any there there.  In fact, your actions very much justify the (arrogant) comment from Mr. Jones:  that if people knew that the UK had FOIA, then kooks like you would inundate them with requests.  And your behavior is an example of the wasteful and unnecessary requests they worried about getting.

I know you'll respond that your request is for the greater public good, blah, blah, blah.  But given your long-timer obsession with this matter--and illustrated by your broad and vague FOIA request, it's clear you're on a fishing expedition and the only thing you will accomplish is wasting taxpayer dollars.  The perfect irony for a self-described conservative.    


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Festus (0.00 / 0)
They(climatologists) threw away the raw data used to create their flawed model. I don't call the truth an obsession do you?    

Full Disclosure


http://www.redmassgroup.com/pr...


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Things get tossed. (0.00 / 0)
The 80s in computer time was a millenia ago. It even happens to NASA.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0...

To commemorate the anniversary, NASA released newly restored video footage of the Apollo 11 moon landings - but the fabled "lost" moon tapes weren't among them. Those tapes, alas, which preserved the highest-quality raw feed from the moon in July 1969, appear to have been accidentally erased. Instead, what NASA officials unveiled at a press conference at the Newseum in Washington, D.C., were partially restored versions of the compressed signal sent to Mission Control in Houston from three ground receiving stations in California and Australia. For example, mission commander Neil Armstrong's face visor was too fuzzy to be seen in the original-quality recordings. The refurbished video shows his visor and a reflection in it.

Clearly this means we never landed on the moon.

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"That it ceased to exist, I'll grant you, but whether or not it failed cannot be definitively said." - Metropolitan (1990)


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I get the sentiment (0.00 / 0)
But this is hardly a fair comparison.  Millions of people (including me) watched the original broadcasts.  The world saw it on television....it was in newspapers, magazines....we have (or had until recently) most of the individuals involved in the mission(s), and even the astronauts.

The climate issue has been a large contingent of scientists telling us something is happening, apparently silencing any rational debate from those for dissent, and unable to produce the original data they used to feed their complex and now questionable models.  What we have STILL is a large set of correlation models (correlation != causation).  People have been questioning the validity of the correlation for years, and now were compelled to question the actual data used to form that correlation?  

In my mind, no matter which way you view the issue it is at least reasonable to question the manner/methods used...regardless of the recent climategate scandal.  Science must be open to review by all....even if that review is undertaken by critics....especially where this long crossed into the realm of political and public policy for the world's largest economies.

Now if NASA (et al) were telling everyone they went to the moon, showed a few "moon" rocks, and hired a bunch of technicians to say it was so because they have seen the rocks, and refused to consider or publish anyone who questions the claim....maybe it's a reasonable parallel.

I still content, the emails have skeptics all fired up, but the real fly in the ointment will be analysis of the models used and the tweaking of data and the algorithms.

Suffering Battered Voter Syndrome since 8/31/1981


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That's what they want you to think. (0.00 / 0)
Millions of people (including me) watched the original broadcasts.

Capricorn One.  Movie or documentary?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt00...

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"That it ceased to exist, I'll grant you, but whether or not it failed cannot be definitively said." - Metropolitan (1990)


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Entertaining MOVIE (and book) (0.00 / 0)
I must admit...it is the allure of all conspiracy theories.

But at the nature of all conspiracies we must always come the to underlying question of why?  What would motivate a group or government to promote a large hoax or cover up?  To what end?  Who possibly benefits or is saved from harm?

Also, at the heart of all conspiracies is the reality that eventually someone will talk...so far, no one credible has talked in JFK, Apollo, 9/11 or any number of other large theories.

Suffering Battered Voter Syndrome since 8/31/1981


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BTW (0.00 / 0)
Not for nothing, but I met Alan Sheppard (granted, not Armstrong) a couple of years ago at a conference in Florida.....he's comes off as very believable :)

Suffering Battered Voter Syndrome since 8/31/1981

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Yes, I know. (5.00 / 1)
I do believe that we landed on the moon :)

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"That it ceased to exist, I'll grant you, but whether or not it failed cannot be definitively said." - Metropolitan (1990)


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Is a public request (0.00 / 0)
Valid by email?  Just wondering if it acceptable as a means to request records by the letter of the law.

Be prepared....having been involved in an audit or two the name of the game is often "If forced to comply, bury them in as much info, related or now, as possible".

What are your plans if the release the info to have any kind of scientific review/analysis done?

Suffering Battered Voter Syndrome since 8/31/1981


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C'mon folks, pony up a 10 spot ................ (0.00 / 0)


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Professor Bradley is a distinguished Scientist and owes you no explanantion. (0.00 / 0)

Damnit! Global Warming is real, why can't you people understand that?  We are all gonna die and then burn up and float away on icebergs while being eaten by polar bears.  The facts are undisputable!  If you don't believe it then look at how high the water levels are getting in my beaker!



We are headed for a 'Fiscal Cliff' and the country just elected a dope whose motto is 'Forward'.  

Hahahahahah, were do you find thid stuff ?? Hahahahaha........ (0.00 / 0)


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How can we help? (0.00 / 0)
I'm an alumni of Umass and will be doing a interview with two professors in a week or so. One is an evolutionary ecologist and the other is a climatologist. We also have a very active groups here in western Mass and could bring pressure to bare where needed. Let me know how things progress and how we might be able to help.
In Liberty,
Dave

Wow, three professors can shut down FOIA in the UK? (0.00 / 0)
That's pretty amazing.  Glad you put in this request.  It's doesn't make you sound like a nut at all.  Keep up the great work!

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