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Scott Brown for Senate: It's About Turnout!

by: Mike "DD4RP" Rossettie

Fri Dec 11, 2009 at 08:02:59 AM EST


A Suffolk University Poll on November 11 showed the following numbers:

Martha 44%, Pags = Jobs 17%, Cappy 16%, K-Z 3%, Und. 20%
Senator Scott Brown 45%, Jack E. 7%, Und. 48%

The actual primary results showed something a bit different.
Martha 47%, Pags = Jobs 12%, Cappy 28%, K-Z 13%
Senator Scott Brown 89%, Jack E. 11%

The turnout numbers in a normal election are very different from the turnout numbers in a special election.  Special elections have significantly lower turnout that is mostly driven by the campaigns.  The people who choose to vote are the ones most interested in, and most educated about, the election.  Because of the higher level of interest and education these voters are more easily effected by grass roots direct contact and less so by mass media and big money.

On the Democrat side, Pagliuca was in second place in the overall poll beating Khazei by a nearly 6 to 1 margin.  Pagliuca spent tons of money on mass media while the little known Khazei spent virtually none gaining most of his support in his ground game.  When the votes were finally tallied Khazei finished narrowly ahead of Pagliuca.

The other out performer was Capuano.  He had more organizational support from his fellow congressmen and the unions.  His turnout operation allowed him to significantly close the overall gap with Coakley when the votes were cast.

On the Republican side, Jack E. Robinson bought radio ads and had an aggressive direct mail campaign.  Scott Brown spent virtually no money on media while volunteers spent time doing phone banks. Brown won a landslide victory that exceeded even the polls.  On both sides of the isle, the ground game defeated the air game with tremendous success.

MORE BELOW THE FOLD....

Mike "DD4RP" Rossettie :: Scott Brown for Senate: It's About Turnout!
Special elections are not played the same way as regular elections.  The name of the game is TURNOUT!  YankeePundit discussed this in more detail on another thread.

Take a look at some of these turnout numbers for Scott Brown in the Primary:

Attleboro 1,525
Barnstable 2,433
Chelmsford 1,638
Needham 2,038

Springfield 836
Fall River 457
Somerville 454
Cambridge 426


Yes, the larger cities are Democratic strongholds.  However, it is very unusual for any candidate to have more votes from Barnstable than Springfield, Fall River, Somerville and Cambridge combined.  These abnormalities are a direct result of where the Brown campaign was able to drive out votes.  Barnstable is not in Scott Brown's district.

Comparisons to Ogonowski:

There are some interesting parallel's between Scott Brown's US Senate campaign and Jim Ogonowski's congressional campaign 2 years ago.  Both are open seats and special elections.  Both have a unified Republican Party.  Brown and Ogonoski both received exactly 89% of the vote in their primaries.  The Democrat nominees each received under 50% of the vote and both are women.  

Both had 3rd party candidates with minimal support.  The 2007 candidates included Constitution Party candidate Kevin Thompson, Independent turned Republican Kurt Hayes, and Independent Patrick Murphy.  They combined for around 4% of the vote and I believe these candidates hurt Jim Ogonowski's chances.  In 2009 an independent (but really Libertarian) named Joe Kennedy is on the ballot.  His impact on the race has yet to be determined.

In the 2007 MA-5 special the Democrat primary had 55,517 votes cast versus 13,493 in the Republican primary for a 4.11 to 1 ratio of ballots cast.  In the 2009 US Senate race the Democrat primary had 664,795 votes cast versus 162,706 in the Republican primary for a 4.08 to 1 ratio of ballots cast.  Those numbers are similar.

The primary turnout in the US Senate primary was 11.99 times the turnout of the 2007 congressional primary.  In 2007, 105,883 people voted in the general.  If the general election turnout is also 12 times as large 1,268,938 will vote and 634,469 vote will be a majority.  There are 490,269 registered Republicans in Massachusetts.  At just 31%, Jeff Beatty received 922,727 votes in 2008.

Ultimately Niki Tsongas defeated Jim Ogonowski 51% to 45%.  Her margin of victory was slightly smaller than polling indicated.

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Absolutely right DD4RP (0.00 / 0)
Turnout will be the single largest problem for Scott Brown to win this race.  

I think enough people see Martha Coakley as another hack insider just trying to make a name for herself that they could be convinced to vote against her.  But will they actually vote?  

If you disagree with me you are a racist homophobe.


Wow (0.00 / 0)
Great post DD4RP. I am definitely praying for a big snowstorm to help out the situation!

The plot thickens! (0.00 / 0)
The Ogonowski-Brown correlation is compelling. Excellent research and argument.

The "conventional wisdom"-types are generally confounded by specials because they do not follow the rules or ordinary elections. Wacky things have happened and will happen when it comes to special elections, all we have to do is remember Ogonowski... or in 2008 Louisiana Congressmen Joe Cao.

Ogo damn near won in 2007... despite the worst political climate for Republicans in a generation('06 and '08 were our '74 and '76), despite an opponent with near legendary familial recognition in the region(TSONGAS IN A LOWELL DISTRICT!), despite being rather obscure himself and never having held office(no machine in place or name-ID), and despite it being a Democratic district (if won, it would have been the most Democratic district held by a Republican in the country, I believe). Yet a close race was made possible by special election and an exceptional campaign staff and dedicated volunteers.


You Dont Give Tsongas Enough Credit .. (0.00 / 0)
You need to get yourself to a Tsongas event to get a true sense for her personal public appeal.

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A little inside baseball (0.00 / 0)
If Niki had lost the primary to any other candidate polling showed Jim Ogonowski would have won the general.  The name Tsongas still carries a lot of weight in the Merrimack Valley.

You are exactly right about the national mood in 2007.  The 2006 and 2008 elections were both Dem landslides.  Current polling shows the current political climate to be much friendlier for Republicans.  The 2009 results in VA and NJ back this up.  Hopefully this mood can help Scott Brown as well.

Bob Hedlund for Minority Leader.


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Another Way of Thinking About the Special Election Results (5.00 / 1)
Another way of thinking about the Coakley/Brown race is to look at the ratio of the general vote total of the general D/R candidate to the primary vote totals by party.  The idea being what is the turnout propensity of voters of different parties.  

I think that these two races are good parallels since Ogo's opponent (Tierney) and Brown's opponent (Robinson) were perpetual candidates with no support in their party.  Indeed, Tierney had run as a Dem and I could identify no positions that Mr. Tierney held that were consistent with standard Republican dogma.  Also, in both 2009 and 2007 the Dem primary received all the attention and the money, the GOP primaries pretty quiet.  

On with the numbers.

In the general, Tsongas received 54,363 votes which is actually somewhat smaller than the total that voted in the 55,517 that voted in the Dem primary.  That means that the Dem vote total for the special was maxed out by the primary.  Let's say that happens again and we give Coakley all of the Dem primary voters.  That's 664,795 votes.

Let's give Brown the ratio of GOP general to GOP primary voters in the 2007 special.  Ogo got 47,7140 in the general and there were 13,493 voters in the GOP primary.  That gives Brown 162,706 x (47,710 / 13,493) = 575,313 votes.

That gives us Coakley 53.6 % and Brown 46.4 %.  So Brown is still the underdog but not out of it by any means.


Nice Job! (5.00 / 1)
I wish I included those numbers in the post.

I wish we has a larger sample size of similar races to pull from.

I wish the national party would wake up and sink some money into this thing.

Bob Hedlund for Minority Leader.


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I've been sending email (0.00 / 0)
To them to ask them to do just that

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[ Parent ]
Steven Lynch! (0.00 / 0)
In 2001 there was another special election for congress.  In the General, Steven Lynch (D) defeated Jo Ann Sprague (R) with 3rd party candidates in the mix.  Sprague easily won a heads up Republican primary while Lynch won a 4 way Dem primary with less than than 50% of the vote.
http://elections.nola.com/dyna...
Stephen F. Lynch Democratic 44,943 65.2%
Jo Ann Sprague Republican 22,645 32.9%
Susan C. Gallagher-Long Conservative 827 1.2%
Brock R. Satter Socialist wrkr 510 0.7%

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/...
Dem: Stephen F. Lynch (40%), Cheryl Ann Jacques (28%), Brian Joyce (16%), Mark R. Pacheco (14%)

GOP: Jo Ann Sprague (62%), William D. McKinney (38%)


First, I need the raw numbers from the primaries.
Second, fun with math!

Bob Hedlund for Minority Leader.

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Dem vote reduction holds! (0.00 / 0)
http://point08.blogspot.com/20...
Stephen Lynch 44,905
Cheryl Ann Jacques 32,933
Brian Joyce 16,818 14.77%
Mark Pacheco 15,009 13.18%
William Sinnott 3,110 2.73%
John Taylor 767 0.67%
William Ferguson 253 0.22%
All Others 54 0.05%

That's 68,944 total Dem votes in the primary, and 44,943 in the General for Lynch!  That's only 38 more than he had in the primary.  Wow.  I see a few reasons for the reduction off the top of my head.

1) Unenrolled voters. They vote in the Dem primary and Republican in the general.  I have some friends who do this all the time and it's probably the largest factor.
2) Money.  Dems spend everything they have in the primary and are broke for the general but still beat the Republican.
3) Information.  They don't have the voter ID information from their opponents.  The campaigns are the ones driving people to the polls and this doesn't transfer over.
4) Resentment:  In a regular election there is a lot to vote on.  In a special, if your candidate loses you might just stay home during the general.  Some, but fewer, will cross over.

Bob Hedlund for Minority Leader.


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Brown spent money... (0.00 / 0)
The Brown campaign did spend a good deal of money for radio ads that were played on RKO, WEEI, WBZ, 96.9 and other stations. They have expenditures of over $200K for the campaign. All of it is in effort of getting his name out there. They hardly have enough money for this fight. Their fundraising team has been sub-par and the shape of the economy hasn't helped either. They only have roughly a little over $200k left to pay staff salaries, purchase signs, bumper stickers, rent, and normal office expenses. That doesn't include additional radio and TV ads which they will have to do. Their initial goal was to raise over $1 million by the end of this, but they won't come close to that.

Pags may have outspent everyone and lost, but he lost to those who spent close to $2 million.


Maybe... (0.00 / 0)
He can buy Beatty's list.

"Don't let me get away with it. Check me out. Don't be the sucker generation." -Ronald Reagan

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What a mandate (0.00 / 0)
if no one votes a Republican has a chance. Very sad.


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