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Patrick's attack on insurance companies hides true costs

by: Rob "EaBo Clipper" Eno

Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 07:45:43 AM EDT


Governor Patrick seems to be making political points with the recent game of chicken he has been playing with the mostly non-profit insurance industry in Massachusetts.  Yesterday he said that he doesn't understand why when costs are only going up by "5%" through providers the insurance companies need "30%" increases.

The first thing to look at is the Massachusetts health insurance law.  People with pre-existing conditions can get coverage under this law.  As we saw earlier this week in the Boston Globe, people are gaming this system to buy short term "insurance" to cover them only when they are sick.  It is cheaper to pay the fine during the other times.  This drives up the costs to insurers.

The second thing is that to truly control costs we need to move away from the Ted Kennedy HMO model.  Before Ted Kennedy and the congress invented the HMO model people paid for their routine care out of their pockets and had insurance for catastrophic events.  When the consumer pays for things out of their own money they can shop to find the best value.  The best value is not always the lowest price, for example consumers aren't going to be beating down the door of Dr. Nick from the "Simpsons".  Consumers of the services would however choose the option that was best for them.  

The Ted Kennedy HMO model is a second payer action which removes the consumer from his or her part in the value of the transaction. Much like the payment of income taxes has become a second payer action.  The average taxpayer really doesn't know how much they pay in either income or other taxes each year.  Employers pay the income tax through witholding every week, and merchants collect other taxes for the government.   The taxes are buried.  The same is true of the current health care system.  Costs are buried so that the consumer doesn't know the true cost of their care.

So while Deval Patrick may get good headlines out of "fighting against the insurance companies". Remember he supported doubling down on a failing system, by making it illegal to not buy the insurance companies products.  

The only way to fix the current health insurance mess it to go to a model whereby people buy catastrophic insurance and pay for routine medical visits out of their own pockets.    

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An update from Harvard Pilgrim and our state government (0.00 / 0)
Visitors to the 'Harvard Pilgrim Health Care - Buy Direct' program are met with the following message:

The Division of Insurance (DOI) has disapproved Harvard Pilgrim's April 2010 individual and small group rate filing. Since May and June rates will also be pending DOI review, we are temporarily shutting down our online quoting tool until further notice.

In other words, because government has stuck its big, fat stupid nose into everyone's business the insurance company can not sell health insurance to new customers - at this time.  The issue will be resolved when the state demands that Harvard Pilgrim lower its costs to a point where it can no longer make a profit.  

Visitors to the state's 'Health Connector Website' will find only one (1) plan available since the state has not approved any others at this time.

This will be the standard operating procedure for US citizens in the future thanks to government intervention.

If you disagree with me you are a racist homophobe.


One quibble (0.00 / 0)
HPHC is a non-profit, so what they're saying is they will be seriously in the red if they are not allowed to raise their rates, thus putting them in danger of going out of business. How does taking a major provider of insurance out of the marketplace help the insurance market or consumers? Answer: It doesn't.

Why is President Obama's Justice Dept. running guns to Mexican drug cartels, and possibly MS-13 too?

Karl (TLC)Weld


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Oh what a tangled web is woven (0.00 / 0)
when the federal government starts mandating things.
This all started when the feds ordered hospitals to treat everyone who goes to the emergency room, something that most Americans approved as compassionate But once this compassion is required, the treatment must be paid for, and has been paid for by those of us who pay insurance premiums. To address that unfairness, Massachusetts, now the feds, require almost everyone to buy insurance. To address that, someone needs to control insurance company charges, now that they have captive consumers. Next step: to forbid insurance companies from going out of business (as MA once tried to forbid car insurance companies from leaving the state). At this point of maximum absurdity, what can we do but throw up our hands and beg for the government to run the healthcare system?

That's been the plan all along Barbara. (0.00 / 0)
It was never about helping people. It was about government control.

Why is President Obama's Justice Dept. running guns to Mexican drug cartels, and possibly MS-13 too?

Karl (TLC)Weld


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So who else but you and I knows this? (0.00 / 0)
I keep waiting for the Republicans to put it all together, do they assume it's obvious?
No, I think they want to attack Democrats without facing these realities themselves.  No one is going to suggest repealing the federal mandate that appears on emergency room walls. RomneyCare opponents want to get rid of the mandate for health insurance. Republicans and other ObamaCare opponents refuse to address the interim problem: if you are going to mandate care, you have to mandate insurance for everyone who will get the care. Catch 22.  

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Andy McCarthy at National Review (0.00 / 0)
http://corner.nationalreview.c...

In the Democrat leadership, we are not dealing with conventional politicians for whom the goal of being reelected is paramount and will rein in their radicalism. They want socialized medicine and all it entails about government control even more than they want to win elections. After all, if the party of government transforms the relationship between the citizen and the state, its power over our lives will be vast even in those cycles when it is not in the majority. This is about power, and there is more to power than winning elections, especially if you've calculated that your opposition does not have the gumption to dismantle your ballooning welfare state.


Why is President Obama's Justice Dept. running guns to Mexican drug cartels, and possibly MS-13 too?

Karl (TLC)Weld


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You and Andy are right (0.00 / 0)
But we are a long way from most Americans being able to see that. They just want to live their lives, and don't have an intense need to control other people.  It's hard to make them understand that need in others. So on each issue, we have to decide if we should begin the seminar on "what is really driving liberal politicians", or just find a simple argument against a bill, that can work.
I've been amazed at how many new-to-activism teapartiers seem to "get it" though. Maybe it has recently become more obvious that something is inherently wrong here.

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Is Life Insurance Next? (0.00 / 0)
Think about all the money you could save by waiting to buy life insurance until you were on the way to the hospital with a heart attack or had been diagnosed with a terminal illness.  Sounds absurd, but so to did allowing people to buy health insurance only after they find out they are sick.

And car insurance, homeowners insurance... (0.00 / 0)
So obvious, yet wasn't used much at all during the debate. For some reason, most people don't figure this out for themselves?, need opposition leaders drawing pictures...

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