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Is Warren running for U.S. Senator or Cambridge City Council?

by: Rob "EaBo Clipper" Eno

Sun Jul 29, 2012 at 09:31:02 AM EDT


Last evening we learned that Elizabeth Warren sent out an email begging people to take a fresh look at her viral rant about not building your business alone.  Putting aside for her moment that the groundwork she is talking about levels a playing field for all of us, not just business owners, it's interesting to see what she thinks is the role of the federal government.

The following paragraph really struck me, as to what Warren apparently believes is the role of the federal government.

But we're pretty sure they're going to need employees who can read and write. They're going to need power to keep the lights on and clean water and functioning sewers to keep going. They're going to need roads and bridges to move their goods to market or bring customers to their store. And they're going to need police officers and firefighters to keep their businesses safe.

Every single one of those things is the responsibility of local government or private industry, not the federal government.  

Primary education is the role of local government.  Not the federal government.  Look at the United States education system.  Test scores and performance have suffered ever since the inception of the Federal Department of Education.

Power is brought to market by private companies, on poles they own, that get easements from local government, or in some communities on a grid owned by the town.  None of it is the responsibility of the federal government.

Clean drinking water, and a sewerage system is, and should be the responsibility of local government, or a the very most a regional compact, not the federal government.

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Rob "EaBo Clipper" Eno :: Is Warren running for U.S. Senator or Cambridge City Council?
Roads and bridges are best built by a local or state government.  When the federal government gets involved in anything more than planning, i.e. the interstate system, the costs go up exponentially.  In addition long haul roads can be built by private companies at a lower cost, and more efficient operating cost.  These are not the role of the federal government.

Police and Fire protection are the role of local government, not the role of the federal government.  A coordination system for the registry of criminals is the role of our federal government, local law enforcement is not.  

Elizabeth Warren tells us a lot about the choices in this race, and where her priorities lie.  Warren apparently believes that a centralized bureaucracy in Washington DC best knows how to educate our children, power our homes, give us drinking water, take away our waste, build our streets, and protect our homes from petty criminals and fire.  That is not the vision that most of us share.  

That vision is what has gotten us into the trap we are in, with ever growing debt, and unsustainable budgets.  The choice is clear, do you want Washington or Main Street having the most influence on your life?  Warren wants Washington, we can most certainly do better.

If she wants to truly affect the list of things she cites above, she should run for a seat on the Cambridge City Council, not the U.S. Senate.

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What do you expect? Professor Warren is entirely comfortable (0.00 / 0)
with socialism. How she distinguishes special interest liberalism with pan-European socialism should be a question she should answer. She favors the collective improperly understood.

"Work is the essence of Man."

Why do you (5.00 / 1)
want dirty water, dirty air, unedumacated kids, no protection from fire and criminals, and no electricity???

I guess someone should tell Martha that she can't fine National Grid...because it's now the government's fault.

"I acknowledge having racist and classist and sexist feelings of white male superiority." -John Howard


Straw man alert! She didn't say a word about the federal government in that segment. (3.00 / 2)
Your points are just technical truisms on scope of powers.  And your points have no opponent, for she didn't say anything about the federal government being responsible for these specific services.  Her point is practical and ideological, without being technical.  She is simply trying to swat away the endlessly-repeated Reagan philosophy (not policy, not framework, but vague inactionable philosophy) that government is the problem, regulation kills jobs, etc, etc.  She is simply and precisely shattering the myth that government functions are "in the way" of business and private industry.  In fact it is quite the opposite.  Government functions are the bedrock of business success.  You cannot have healthy, vibrant trade and commerce without healthy, collectively-funded police, fire, roads, air, water, and other shared resources.  Period.  Otherwise, for instance, as Prof. Warren said, marauding bands could come and take over your factory.  That is also why know one becomes successful on their own, technically speaking.  It is a myth.

I'm trying to do some objective research on the life stories of both candidates to really learn about what makes them tick, what has shaped their values, and how they honed their intellectual skills as they came up in the world.  Does anyone have a good lengthy biographical article on Scott Brown?  Here is one for Elizabeth Warren.  It is very good:

http://www.vanityfair.com/poli...


Prof Warren Says A Lot (0.00 / 0)
But doesn't always follow through.

Witness the OWS movement which she embraced, until they came to Harvard and she was asked to sign a petition in support of the occupation of Harvard Yard.  She declined and failed to speak out against the locking of the gates to keep the public out of Harvard Yard.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

So she'll speak a good game and when the time comes to put her name on something she'll turn silent.

Its not entirely her fault, its all she's ever known.  Everything she has comes from the government and without the government she would be nothing.  She cannot imagine a world where anybody does it any differently.  Same as our President.

So let her stick to teaching, we need someone who can actually work with others as our US Senator.


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She Doesn't Have To Say "Federal Gov't" (5.00 / 1)
In what other context are her comments applicable since she is arguing for increasing the federal income tax?

"Government functions are the bedrock of business success." That right there is the myth.

The bedrock of business success is no more and no less than two people agreeing on a service to be provided for some manner of compensation, and then following through on their contractual obligations, with all the hard work and ingenuity required to accomplish those ends. Without the overt threat of fraud, mob violence (both la cosa nostra and/or OWS), arson, etc. those functions as you listed them are unneccessary to effect business.

Private property rights can secure water, fire protection can be provided (and is provided) through either volunteer efforts (~75%+ of firemen in the nation are volunteers I believe) or through contracts with a professional company (occurs less often). Private security is contracted on a regular basis. Private property rights are also used to prevent/clean-up pollution, etc.

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It is not a myth: Government functions ARE the bedrock of business success. (0.00 / 0)
OK, now we're getting into a bigger ideological debate (inevitably).

I would argue that your statement here is a myth:

"The bedrock of business success is no more and no less than two people agreeing on a service to be provided for some manner of compensation, and then following through on their contractual obligations, with all the hard work and ingenuity required to accomplish those ends."

Your statement rings nicely, but you're actually expressing an anarchist sentiment (hm, like many people OWS) -- with the exception of your loaded term "contractual obligations," which is a direct citation of there existing the rule of Law.

For, the bedrock of business success is MORE THAN the two people agreeing and then fulfilling their contractual obligations.  That is because you need some kind of "higher power" backing up the contract, or else any party would quickly break it for selfish purposes.  That "higher power" is the Law and its hand-maidens are the GOVERNMENT FUNCTION called the court system, as well as the GOVERNMENT FUNCTION called the police force, to enforce the rulings of the court.  Business will NOT function in a healthy, non-violent manner unless wrapped in the collective trust of law, administered by the DAILY FUNCTIONS OF GOVERNMENT.

Perhaps you are an anarchist and you simply disagree that "law wraps business", and believe that "business wraps law," that thousands of tiny villages, factories, and roving tribes with hired private security forces (militias?) would make for a better society.  

Because that is really the core reduction of these ideological debates.  


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Any practical or ideological limits? (0.00 / 0)
Should you find it during that research, or if you have discovered it already, please let us know whether Professor Warren has ever defined what, to her, are the limits - if any - of the powers of the Federal government.

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You make a very important point EaBo.... (0.00 / 0)
And a point I too have made in the past.  'Does Elizabeth Warren know what a US Senator does, and can she do it?'

Just like Coakley, Elizabeth Warren continues to talk about how she stood up to the big banks.  Standing up to big banks will NOT be her job in the US Senate if she is lucky enough to win.  Her jobs will be to manufacture legislation with people from the opposing party.  She will not be a regulator or an enforcer.  That is the job of the people in the executive branch and the CFPB.  All the work she did, whatever it is she imagines she did, has no bearing on her qualifications for the US Senate job.  She has not been, and seems unqualified to be, a legislator.

She is unqualified to be a legislator because she is unwilling to so much as listen to the other side and consider their opinion and their facts.  

One need only listen to the recent endorsement of former Boston Mayor and Ambassador to Vatican City, Ray Flynn to hear his appeal for folks to elect someone willing to be considerate of others and their psoition on the issues.  Elizabeth Warren is a angry, antagonistic screamer.  She isn't going to be a person who will cross the aisle politically to work witht he opposition toward common goals.  Nope, it will be her way or the highway...

Watch the Ray Flynn endorsement below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

We are headed for a 'Fiscal Cliff' and the country just elected a dope whose motto is 'Forward'.  


What the Federal Govt has done for me by Rob Eno: (0.00 / 0)
 

 

 

 

 

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"That it ceased to exist, I'll grant you, but whether or not it failed cannot be definitively said." - Metropolitan (1990)


What are the roles of the federal gov't? (0.00 / 0)
Constitutionally they include provide for the national defense... which at most Warren/Obama would prefer to minimize; provide for a legal process of immigration and emigration... at which the federal gov't is failing, and that is, based on the current policy evidence, the overt goal of the current administration and probably Warren agrees with that goal...

There are a number of other things. I suppose if the federal gov't were executing all of its constitutionally mandated responsibilities properly, it might be worth considering amending the constitution to add to the responsibilities of the federal gov't, but I don't see much evidence of that.


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Warren Rant (0.00 / 0)
I just watched it and added to her view count, BUT I also clicked on "Don't Like" or "Thumbs Down."

7,270 likes, 1,116 dislikes!


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