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Elizabeth Warren concedes she can't beat Scott Brown

by: Rob "EaBo Clipper" Eno

Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 08:00:56 AM EDT


We have reached the point of the campaign where Elizabeth Warren, and her supporters, have realized that they can't beat Scott Brown.  They have now switched gears to running against a generic Republican, who apparently is the most evil thing imaginable in this blue of blue states.  How did we get to this point?

It publicly started over 48 hours ago with a simple tweet from the polling firm, Public Policy Polling.  The let the world know that they were going to release a poll showing Scott Brown with a lead over Elizabeth Warren for the "first time since June of 2011".  The next day the poll came out and showed Scott not only with a lead, but a commanding one at that.  

The poll showed that as voters have gotten to know Elizabeth Warren, they have liked her less and less.  It also shows one of the most striking gender gaps in any race this year.  Brown has a 21 point lead amongst men, but only a 9 point disadvantage amongst women. And he's almost at his floor amongst women with 41%.  33% of women say that Warren is too liberal.  That's only 8 points to the floor.  

That is why you have seen the Warren campaign become erratic, changing the focus from Brown, whom they now realize they can't beat to a generic Republican. In a move, cheered by the folks at Blue Mass Group yesterday, Warren started running an ad against Todd Aikin, in Massachusetts.  Not against Scott Brown.

The Massachusetts Democratic Party and Martha Coakley tried this tactic in 2010 as a last ditch "Hail-Mary" attempt, and it failed then.  Their "Lockstep Republican" ad was a colossal failure as the voters of Massachusetts already met and grew to like Scott Brown.  

The same tired tactics aren't going to help this year, but it's all they have left.  Elizabeth Warren and the progressive machine have determined that they have lost the race against Scott Brown, they now have one option, that has failed in the past, to make the race about anyone else.

Rob "EaBo Clipper" Eno :: Elizabeth Warren concedes she can't beat Scott Brown
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Let's be honest (0.00 / 0)
Everyone has known for a long time that Scott Brown is popular in this state, despite being a Republican. Anywhere else, he would be cruising to re-election.

Elizabeth Warren's whole campaign comes down to, do the hoards of Obama voters in this state merely check off the D when they move down to the Senate race, or do they remember like they actually like the Republican too.

She tried to make people not like Brown, but it didn't work. She's back to the one reason for her campaign. Maybe the overwhelming Obama turnout will carry her through because she's not a Republican.

(R)- Outside 495


Agreed (0.00 / 0)
Warren's views are blue state only.

He's positioned himself well in the eyes of the electorate, and that, as well as his wife and daughters will carry him through against the negative ad bombardment.


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Scott Brown conceded her point. (0.00 / 0)
By sending the letter about the GOP platform Scott Brown conceded the point Warren made in the facebook post that was linked here:
http://www.redmassgroup.com/di...

The agenda of the Republican Party is to limit access to health care services. It's to deny women equal pay for equal work. It's to cut funding for Planned Parenthood. And it's to select as a vice presidential nominee someone who co-sponsored legislation with Rep. Akin to 'redefine rape.'

Scott Brown and other Republicans want to pretend Todd Akin is an isolated individual, but he is clearly in line with the Republican agenda.



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"That it ceased to exist, I'll grant you, but whether or not it failed cannot be definitively said." - Metropolitan (1990)


Three immediate thoughts: (0.00 / 0)

-Healthcare Insurance was suppose to help you when you got sick and/or injured. Access to Birth control and Erectile dysfunction drugs, Abortions, et al. really should be  distinct seperate programs and Planned Parenthood has morphed many of these costs into a hugely unfunded arm of Health Insurance ryders at the taxpayers expense.

-Akins is mentally ill and could use some real healthcare assistance at a facility like Bellvue.

-Elizabeth Warren is in the same position as Obama. Aside from her own issues, she needs to keep the focus off of the current administrations miserable performance with the Country's biggest issues, jobs and the Economy and their current Party strategy is (sadly) to paint Republicans as anti-woman. This truly is insulting to all Republicans (men and woman) and I believe the intelligents of many unenrolled Voters. At some point I predict this tactic will come back to bite them all in the Arse!

 



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The more you know (0.00 / 0)
Albeit with an admitted bias against the candidate Warren, the more you know her, the more dislikable she appears.  Her speeches and style of speaking come across as condescending platitudes.  

Her style in question/answer is pure ego and she's going to make sure you know that she knows she's the smartest and the best or the first at something.  She can't help herself:

"Every now and again, I meet with someone who's been very successful on Wall Street, who says, "I want to support your campaign because I believe you will save capitalism.'"

On her creation of the Occupy Movement, "I created much of the intellectual foundation for what they do. I support what they do."

"My first choice is a strong consumer agency . . . My second choice is no agency at all and plenty of blood and teeth on the floor."

"I was the first nursing mother to take the Bar [exam]" WTF?

Hopefully, the i) likeability thing and ii) the no coattail Obama thing will mitigate the Demobomb turnout.  

But watch for the other shoe to drop as Nov approaches:  You think with two weeks or so remaining, if Warren is trailing, she won't break the PAC Pact?

Elizabeth Warren: a bankruptcy professor, bankrupt of ideas


several of my friends (unenrolled, might vote for her) have commented (0.00 / 0)
that in the commercial on student loans she says

"ed U cation" in a very notable way, rather than "ed JA cation" like most of us pronounce it.

sometimes it's the little things.


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So (0.00 / 0)
We're putting all our faith into one poll commissioned by freaking DailyKos?

Rob, I love cheerleaders as much as the next guy, but take a breath guy.  I don't believe this poll for a second anymore than I believe Rasmussen pool that just put McCaskill 10+ over Akin.

Still a lot of hard work to be done.  I'm not claiming victory yet, and I don't think we should be back patting ourselves just now.  Nov is a ways away.  


PPP (0.00 / 0)
is a very good polling outfit.  They are usually spot on.  I have no reason not to believe them.  They run a great polling shop.

Full Disclosure


http://www.redmassgroup.com/pr...


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Fair enough! (0.00 / 0)
You got more faith than I do however.  I feel like this one might have been manufactured to lul us into a false sense of victory going into the debates.  

I'd like another poll to confirm it before I agree with PPP.  


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Uphill, but (4.00 / 1)
It's a grim task for Brown on the face.  Consider these numbers:

reg democrat 1559000
reg republican 490000
reg indep 2148000

If the turnout is high (D/R/I = 80%/80%/62%) and each candidate takes 90%-95% of his/her own party then Brown would have to take 75+% of the independents to win.  Consider that Brown is now "only" polling 58:32 with Independents:  to win under this set of assumptions he'd have to take all the Independent undecideds plus poach some of the Democrats.  Unlikely?

Unlikely, IMHO, but not impossible:

First, from last couple of polls, Brown has locked up the Republican vote. No surprise.  And second, he's gaining Democrat support (18%) according to that PPP poll.

So, assume high turnout (but not as high as 2008), assume that he takes 15% (not PPP 18%) of Democrat vote then he still has to take 70% of the independent turnout to win.

Elizabeth Warren: a bankruptcy professor, bankrupt of ideas


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I still think Warren will win (0.00 / 0)
Good for Professor Warren for attacking the party instead of the man. (So, on this point, I agree with Rob. He's just too likeable to attack personally.)

Besides, the Republican party just took a nosedive in popularity this week with Akin and platform planks with absolute positions on immigration and abortion. (If we're lucky, the hurricane will postpone the convention until we can change the subject.)

I still think Warren is going to win in November. I think the combination of President Obama being on the ticket, a good Democratic ground game in local elections, plus the GOP looking so awful at the national level - gives her the advantage. Of course, the debates could be significant. Let's hope Senator Brown comes across very well. That could get him re-elected.


This is not a slam dunk (0.00 / 0)
But Brown will pull this out.  people very much dislike the professor.  There will be ticket splitting.  

Full Disclosure


http://www.redmassgroup.com/pr...


[ Parent ]
Akin stuff will blow over. (0.00 / 0)
And no one cares about party platforms.

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"That it ceased to exist, I'll grant you, but whether or not it failed cannot be definitively said." - Metropolitan (1990)


[ Parent ]
No way Ed! I got Brown by almost double digits according to my research! (0.00 / 0)
And I'm not trying to toot my own horn here but when it comes to predicting a Scott Brown Senate race, well ... I think my record speaks for itself => http://www.redmassgroup.com/di...

As you can see I totally destroyed BlueMassGroup.  I totally blew them off the chart.  For a brief moment in time the chumps on BlueMassGroup thought they had a chance in a man to man contest against the R4-Man - Oh yes!  But the reality based community fell flat on their face!  

Molon Labe


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