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The Nasty GOP? For some conservatives, the labels "nasty" and "mean" are well earned.

by: TLCWeld

Tue Nov 20, 2012 at 09:27:10 AM EST


(This was the core of what Breitbart Believed.  That in order to change America you must change the culture.  You must offer alternative popular culture that expresses your values.  You must win hearts and minds not at election time but at all times.  Oh how I miss that man. - promoted by Rob "EaBo Clipper" Eno)

Brother Geraghty has an insightful piece on Republican branding problems. In short, some Republicans have earned the "nasty" and "mean" monikers. And unfortunately, in this media environment, the damage to our national brand is suffering because of it.

http://www.nationalreview.com/...

TLCWeld :: The Nasty GOP? For some conservatives, the labels "nasty" and "mean" are well earned.
The "47 percent":
Even if there was some valid lament in there about a culture of dependency, the phrasing was about as harmful as possible, because it suggested that as president Romney wouldn't "worry" about those people - that is, wouldn't govern with their needs in mind, because he deemed them uninterested in self-sufficiency.

If you believe that conservative ideas work, you hopefully believe that the formula - a decent education, hard work, prudence, thrift, and a dollop of ambition - can and will work for anyone and everyone. "Some of you people are just hopeless" is an awful political slogan, and one that actually strengthens the case for liberalism: If a significant chunk of the citizenry is indeed unable or unwilling to care for itself - not merely failing to do so in response to incentives created by liberal policies - then some entity must step in to do that, and the state is probably best equipped for this task.

The Sandra Fluke "slut" argument:
This was a winnable argument for conservatives: In essence, Fluke expected Catholic institutions to violate their core principles and pay for something they deemed wrong, simply because she really wanted it. But the Right's legitimate points quickly got drowned out in the brouhaha over Rush's use of the S-word.

We roll our eyes at the Democratic party's deification of Fluke, at Obama's reassuring phone call to her, at her speech at the convention in Charlotte, and at her sometimes sparsely attended appearances on the campaign trail for Democratic candidates. But grassroots conservatives greeted every Fluke appearance like a bull seeing a waving red flag; quite a few among us enjoyed bringing back the S-word and mocking her as a nymphomaniac.

Gay marriage and sexual taboos:
It seems to be a knee-jerk, not-really-in-jest comparison when some conservatives discuss the issue of gay marriage: If two men or two women can get married, why not a man and an animal?

Now, think about how this argument sounds to any gay or lesbian or to anyone who loves them - to their mothers, fathers, brothers, and friends. It takes a consensual relationship that more and more Americans see practiced by their friends, neighbors, and relatives and equates it with criminal acts, among the most reviled in our society. Put another way, if some jerk in a bar came up and compared your relationship to your spouse to bestiality, you would probably be sorely tempted to knock his teeth out.

Are gays and lesbians welcome in the GOP or conservative movement? Arguments and jokes like that send the signal they aren't.

Abortion and rape:
Todd Akin and then Richard Mourdock confirmed every wavering woman's suspicion of pro-life conservatives when the former suggested that he understood nothing about the biology of human reproduction and when the latter contended that rape-generated pregnancy "is something that God intended to happen." Yes, some women who have been raped have carried the child to term and wonderful people have been born as a result. But many women, maybe most, are horrified by the idea that the law could require rape victims to bear the children of the men who assaulted them. For a pair of aspiring GOP senators to utter awful comments, colossally devoid of empathy for the victims of rape, cemented the image of a party so mean they couldn't even remember to mention the plight of the mother.

Is increased government dependency and the crushing debt it brings the critical issue facing our country? I believe it is. The culture war cannot be won in the political arena, and the Right should stop trying to win it there. It is causing a distraction that is obscuring our larger economic and liberty issues. We win those arguments and votes. Every 4 years Americans vote for culture, and "mean" and "nasty" Republicans stand no chance in political votes on culture. We should stop trying to until we change the culture outside of the political arena.

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My take on that article is that Conservatives should not abandon their values (or positions) by their language...which Geraghty suggests ranges from contempt to distain of key voting groups.  OK, I get that.  

I have no idea what Rob is talking about that this somehow parrots Breitbart about changing culture.  I would guess that Geraghty would have thrown a Breitbart example about his use of language as another example of the "meanness" that pervades the GOP.

TLC, I would suggest that the well worn variation of the phrase "government dependency" is another term that completely turns off people.  Who are these people that rely on government programs that you call "dependency"?  There are many groups of people, chief among them are elderly who have paid into the system all their lives and now get Social Security and Medicare, or veterans, or the working poor who maybe using food stamps (but work full time jobs).  Telling them they are dependent on the government and they need to break their sloven dependency will not be winning your side any votes.  

Keep it up.  


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He may have been somewhat socially liberal (or not? I don;'t know), but he was mean and contentious, and if people heard of him at all, they thought he was an asshole birther type of guy, always looking for something new to embarrass and harass the President with.

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I think you meant to say "My take on that article is that Conservatives should not abandon their values (or positions) [but should abandon] their language" which oozed with contempt and disdain for key voting groups.

I agree, everyone here is reading it wrong, if they think the article called for abandoning social issues. It was saying that being opposed to same-sex marriage doesn't require making rude comparisons to marrying animals.


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