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GOP: 'Okay, let's vote on Obama's fiscal plan! DEMS: 'Holy crap, no way!'

by: Vote3rdpartynow

Thu Dec 06, 2012 at 13:48:26 PM EST


In a story that is likely the most telling of all fiscal cliff news stories - Senate Minority leader Mitch McConnell offered an amendment to vote on Barack Obama's plan for fiscal recovery and national debt.

You know the plan I am talking about, don't you?  It's the one with $1.6 trillion in new tax increases and $400 billion in entitlement cuts.  Oh yeah, and additional stimulus spending.  Ya that one!  Well as soon as Sen McConnell asked to let a vote be taken on the plan the top Democrat in the US Senate, Harry Reid, jumped up and brought it to a stop.  Dead as a doornail!  

Why would a Democrat bring a stop to the President's plan for fiscal recovery?  Why I ask, since we are hearing nothing at all in the news except that the Republicans are acting like selfish children roadblocking any progress to be made.  Why stop a vote on a plan by the POTUS in which the majority party controls the Senate?  Clearly the Democrats will support the President's plan of tax increases and additional stimulus spending!  

Well no they won't actually.  No Democrat wants to go on record as having supported trillion dollar tax increases and worthless additional stimulus spending that will no doubt end up in the hands of hacks.  No Democrat wants to go on record as having supported entitlement cuts.  No Democrat truly wants to raise taxes on the rich, especially when many of those rich support the Democrats.  No Democrat wants to support Obama's plan, just the same way no Democrat wanted to support his budget earlier when it was voted down without a single 'Yes' vote.  That's right, our Teleprompter in Chief was warmly greeted with a 99(No) to 0(YES) vote by the US Senate last May when the political body voted unanimously against the President's ideas for spending.  Not 1 stinkin vote for it!  Not a single vote, at all!  

Again, what is happening with the fiscal cliff is that Obama is lobbing garbage at the Republicans and then complaining when they say 'No'.  It looks bad to say 'No' when progress is needed.  The truth is that the Republicans are seriously considering everything the POTUS asks, but there just is not much in the way of a legitimate proposal by Obama.  We now know this because finally McConnell used a little Jiu Jitsu against the POTUS and asked to take a vote.  And down it went without any discussion.  

"Not a single Senate Democrat has stepped forward to support it, and if you look at it you can see why," McConnell said. "It increases taxes'"

Time for Republicans to learn how to play his game.  Get on the television at news time and demand a vote - right there and then on Obama's plan.  No filibuster!  Just an up or down vote on massive tax increases, military cuts, bailouts for buddies, and cuts for seniors.  Take the vote!  Ask Democrats to vote for their dear leader's plan!  Stop doing the right thing when the guy making the proposal doesn't give a rat's ass about anything except redistributing wealth and going on vacation.

Vote3rdpartynow :: GOP: 'Okay, let's vote on Obama's fiscal plan! DEMS: 'Holy crap, no way!'
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McConnell Fillibusters Own Bill (0.00 / 0)
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) wanted to prove on Thursday that Democrats don't have the votes to weaken Congress' authority on the debt limit. Instead they called his bluff, and he ended up filibustering his own bill.

The legislation, modeled on a proposal McConnell offered last year as a "last-choice option" to avert a U.S. debt default, would permit the president to unilaterally lift the debt ceiling unless Congress mustered a two-thirds majority to stop him.

McConnell brought up the legislation Thursday morning. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) initially objected, seemingly proving the Republican leader's point that it cannot pass the Senate. But then Reid ran it by his members and, in the afternoon, agreed to hold that same vote. This time it was McConnell who objected.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo...


And Striker, this would be relevent if it was the same bill... (0.00 / 0)
Instead this was legislation pertaining solely to the debt limit, which the Democrats are trying to remove as a negotiating point.  As you know Barack Obama wants to have unique, and new, unquestioned authority to overspend the debt limit.  This is thoroughly unprecedented.  

I simply can't imagine that any duly elected, and responsible member of Congress would allow a man (Obama) who has added 6 trillion dollars to the national debt already, and promises another 5 trillion before he leaves in four years, to have control over the debt ceiling.  That would be like giving John Edwards the key to the beauty salon.  

And what do we have to show for all of the Democrats wise ways upon the Senate floor and White House back rooms?  No progress whatsoever!!  It is amazing to watch as the Democrats blame Republicans who control only the House, while the Democrats control the White House, the Senate and seemingly all of the progressive mainstream news media.

And by the way, you should get your news from something other than Talkingpointsmemo.    

We are headed for a 'Fiscal Cliff' and the country just elected a dope whose motto is 'Forward'.  


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Relevent in the sense (0.00 / 0)
That your post struck me as being about gamesmanship not a real desire to vote on issues (gamesmanship by the Dems not you). My desire was to point out this is a two way street with regard to being given the opportunity to vote and quickly doubling back to an "omg I wasn't serious" position. I think it reflects poorly on both sides of the isle.

TPM was the first to note McConnell's backflip but certainly not the only site. NBC, CBS, CNN - name them - they all carried the news stories. Being a news junkie I was happily reading all accounts of a badly played  Republican move. (News junkie = I still buy hard copies of the Globe and Herald). Excluding Fox and MSNBC from those lists of course.


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Funny how it works Striker.... (0.00 / 0)
Harry Reid, who everyone in America knows, does the exact same backtracking on a vote and nobody but V3PN covers the story.  But if Mitch McConnell, whom 96.2 percent of voters have never heard of, does a vote backtrack the mainstream media covers it on every front page.  

Gee, no media bias there!  Let's all hope the trend continues and every mainstream journalist, talking head and morning talk show news monkey finds themselves out of work in the next 2 months....

We are headed for a 'Fiscal Cliff' and the country just elected a dope whose motto is 'Forward'.  


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